Jumper(2008)– When Earth Becomes a Throne

Darren: 00:00:00

Oh, it says here that Jamie Bell's gonna drive a double decker bus into your Jackson.

You're.

Paul: 00:00:05

Damn right.

Yes.

All.

Darren: 00:00:06

Right, cool.

Paul: 00:00:06

Approved.

Darren: 00:00:07

Exactly.

Take my money.

Okay, David, you don't need to tell me what's going on.

Okay, David, you really need to tell me what's going on.

Marc: 00:00:28

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Darren: 00:00:31

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Paul: 00:00:33

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Okay.

Welcome back to the show.

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Darren's Choice, jumper from: 2008

Darren: 00:01:06

Yep.

I make excellent choices.

I think we can all agree.

Marc: 00:01:08

We shall see.

You can let him know listeners at the end of this episode.

Okay.

Yeah.

2008.

Directed by Doug Liman.

Darren: 00:01:17

Yes.

Marc: 00:01:17

Otherwise known for.

Paul: 00:01:18

Born Identity.

Darren: 00:01:20

Yeah, that's one of his hits.

One of my all time favorite movies is Edge of Tomorrow, which is a terrible title.

Should be Live, Die.

Marc: 00:01:27

Okay, so the nutshell.

How do we break this down?

Darren: 00:01:30

Oh, it's pretty simple.

Some people can teleport.

Paul: 00:01:36

It's.

It's the Tomorrow People, but with Hayden Christensen.

Darren: 00:01:40

Yeah, it's like X Men if there was only one mutation.

Paul: 00:01:44

It's like the Avengers if there's only one Avenger.

Marc: 00:01:49

Okay, fair enough.

Darren: 00:01:51

And yeah, and like any kind of mutation storyline, there's the bad guys, usually the government who are.

Who are after them, you know,.

Paul: 00:01:59

And it just goes to show that if you cross Samuel L. Jackson in any franchise, he'll hunt you down in another franchise,.

Darren: 00:02:06

Whether you've got the high ground or not.

Marc: 00:02:08

Like in The Matrix.

Paul: 00:02:10

Yes,.

Marc: 00:02:10

Mr. Anderson.

Paul: 00:02:12

Oh, that was good.

Marc: 00:02:14

Thanks.

Darren: 00:02:14

So, yeah, and then it's based on a novel by Stephen Gould, but I haven't read it.

I didn't know that until.

Paul: 00:02:18

And apparently I watched the behind the scenes thing of this because I'm a nerd.

And.

And apparently he only took a few scenes out of the book and things and kind of made it.

What's the director call again?

Darren: 00:02:29

Doug Liman.

Paul: 00:02:29

Doug Lyman.

So he's interviewed and he's basically saying he likes to make things his own thing.

So.

Oh,.

Marc: 00:02:36

So he takes a book and completely changes it.

Paul: 00:02:37

Yeah, and I think.

Marc: 00:02:38

You've got to have the writer on board for that, haven't you?

I.

Paul: 00:02:40

Think there was a bit of a rub with him doing Bone Identity and wanted to do similar where he's just like, well, I want to make my own thing out of it.

So I'm sure he said something like there's a few nods to the book and some scenes, but overall it's kind of his own.

Marc: 00:02:51

Vision thing.

Darren: 00:02:52

I think that's okay because it's a concept movie.

Right.

It's like people can teleport.

That's it.

Like any story, they take the story in any direction you want.

That's the gimmick.

That's the thing.

That's why people are going to come watch it.

That's the wish fulfillment of.

Well, what would you do if you could do that?

Paul: 00:03:05

What would you do if you could do that?

Oh,.

Darren: 00:03:08

I think I'd have a very similar experience as to these characters, but I'd keep it very quiet.

How do you know I can't teleport?

Paul: 00:03:16

Maybe you can.

So that's what this film does.

It's the wish fulfillment of what if you could teleport?

And what would you do with that power and that journey?

The start of the film, without giving it away in the nutshell, is him kind of just existing with these powers and how he lives with them and what he uses them for.

And then the twist of it all is obviously when these bad guys or not bad guys, who's bad, who's good.

But when the government type guys come after him, that's when the chase starts and that's kind of what.

Marc: 00:03:46

Propelse.

Paul: 00:03:48

Yeah, yeah.

Darren: 00:03:49

And it's solid, right?

Is it's always hard with writers and movies because you don't know if somebody was like the original writer and then was someone brought into tighten the comedy or someone brought into freshen up the dialogue.

But the name I recognize with Dave was David S. Goya who wrote like it's written on like Sandman, but also Batman versus Superman, the Constantine series, Man of Steel, Ghost Rider, Batman Begins.

Paul: 00:04:11

Yeah, it wasn't on the original Dark Knight trilogy.

Darren: 00:04:14

Yeah, like heavyweight.

Then you got Simon Kinsburg from X Men Apocalypse, Fantastic Four, X Men Days of.

But then out of nowhere, Jimmy you his walks up who was a writer on Fight Club.

I'm like, all right, nice.

You bought the grown up pants.

And the other two, I mean, I love those other Comic book movies.

But yeah, Fight Club's on a whole different level of script writing.

I think this is the type of movie.

This is the perfect movie for Friday night and a couple of beers and some popcorn.

I think you can watch it with the guy friends, but I think you can also watch it with like, partners.

Paul: 00:04:48

Yeah, it's like an indie superhero movie.

Darren: 00:04:52

Yeah,.

Paul: 00:04:52

In a sense, because it's not going to be like costumes and capes and anything like that, but it's superpowers, it's globe trot in.

It's kind of different locations, exotic locations and things.

It's almost like a Bond film in that sense.

If Bond was a teleporting guy, maybe.

I don't know.

But there's a bit of romance in there as well.

There's Rachel Bilson from oc.

She's the female lead against Hayden Christensen.

And as I was debating at the end of the last episode, I thought they were married.

They weren't married, but they.

They did go out and they had a child together.

Marc: 00:05:31

This is classed as science fiction, action thriller.

Paul: 00:05:36

Yeah.

Marc: 00:05:37

Not saying I agree with that, but that's what it's down as.

Paul: 00:05:40

Yeah.

There's a bit of fantasy, I guess, we never really dig into.

I suppose this doesn't spoil it because this.

If you're the sort of person who wants to know the legacy of where the powers come from and all that kind of thing, this doesn't really delve into that so much.

It kind of on the fringes of it, maybe a bit near the.

It's.

Marc: 00:05:58

Quite fast paced.

It's.

It's adventurous, it's slick and occasionally a bit dark.

The mix, it's got a mix of spectacular locations.

It's got a good bit of action in it, supernatural science fiction kind of aspect to it.

Paul: 00:06:10

Yeah.

Some fights.

You got Sam Jackson doing some Sam Jackson type stuff.

And you've also got Jamie Bell, who you may know from Billy Elliot.

And he.

He's kind of your English counterpart.

Sidekick, almost in this.

Yeah, sidekick kind of.

He's kind of his own character, but they come together.

Darren: 00:06:26

It's more than mentor.

Paul: 00:06:27

Yeah, mentor.

That's good.

Marc: 00:06:28

Any movies this could be compared to?

Darren: 00:06:30

I Am four and Push?

Marc: 00:06:32

I was thinking.

Well, it comes up a lot, but the Matrix a little bit.

Paul: 00:06:35

Kind of.

Maybe.

Darren: 00:06:36

It's more.

Paul: 00:06:37

X Men.

Darren: 00:06:37

It's kind of.

I.

Marc: 00:06:38

Was just thinking like obviously jumping.

Not dimensions, but obviously places, but obviously with governments trying to chase you at the same time.

And.

Darren: 00:06:45

If you guys seen.

Never back down.

Marc: 00:06:47

No, don't.

Darren: 00:06:49

It's Kind of.

Paul: 00:06:50

Amber Heard in it.

Darren: 00:06:51

Oh, I don't know.

Actually Never back down.

I'm thinking it's a kind of fight movie and there's two of them, but I think.

I'm sure it's never back down.

Never back down too.

But anyway, the point I was going to make is this is like a kid's version of a proper fight movie.

Like so like say Rocky or like the wrestler or warrior or whatever.

And this is like a kid's version of a more grown up comic book movie.

It's like a kid's version of say Iron man or you know, something that just deals with darker themes, I suppose.

This is a very frivolous light.

Kind of like a PG13 version of a darker movie, I think.

Paul: 00:07:26

Yeah, yeah.

It's the teen movie version.

It's.

Darren: 00:07:29

A teen movie.

Yeah, totally.

Marc: 00:07:30

Thank you very much, gentlemen.

That takes us into part two, the unboxing.

So spoiler warning ahead.

If you haven't seen it and you think you should go and see it, we recommend you do so because coming up in the unboxing will be some spoilers.

Okay, what did you miss?

I'm going to go over to the horn section first.

Darren: 00:07:51

There's not much depth to this film, but I did spot two minor things.

So in order for him to.

When he first gets his powers, there's a really cliched scene where like the boyfriend of his childhood friend is.

Steals his gift and then mocks him.

And it's all really kind of cliched.

We've seen it a million times in all those other types of films that we're seeing.

Is such a.

It's probably in Cobra Kai as well.

Paul: 00:08:17

Don't you say Cobra Kai in vain.

Darren: 00:08:19

But then he goes out into the ice, falls in the water and then is about to die and then teleports for the first time.

Yeah.

And that's.

That's a really common kind of symbol in.

In dreams.

But in movies it's the water represents like a rebirth or christening.

And so it's a really just symbolic way of him being reborn as somebody with powers, which is quite sophisticated for this type of movie.

Marc: 00:08:45

Or is it the first.

He's always had them.

This is when he's.

Darren: 00:08:47

First time he's acted, he's.

Marc: 00:08:48

Discovered he's.

He has it.

Yeah.

Paul: 00:08:50

So it's like he's pushed to use them almost.

Darren: 00:08:52

Yeah, totally.

Marc: 00:08:52

Like in a survival situation as well.

Darren: 00:08:54

I think he used it when he was 5, but he doesn't seem to remember that.

And then.

And then he teleports into a library, which is a fucking weird place.

It's.

Marc: 00:09:01

Very weird.

Darren: 00:09:01

But he was just thinking, you know where I need to be right now?

In the library.

It's my.

Marc: 00:09:04

Safe and quiet.

Darren: 00:09:05

Drive.

But then a library is a.

Is a symbol of knowledge and wisdom.

So he's kind of gone.

He's been reborn.

Paul: 00:09:13

Maybe he just watched the pagemaster with Christopher Lloyd and Macaulay Culkin, and that's what he thought of.

That's a deep.

I.

Marc: 00:09:18

Have no idea what that is.

Paul: 00:09:19

The pagemaster.

Okay.

I might spring that on you at some point.

Darren: 00:09:23

Yeah.

So I just thought that was cool.

So there's some elements of, like, a little bit more sophisticated storytelling, which I quite liked then.

Have you guys seen Always Sunday in Philadelphia?

Paul: 00:09:32

Yes, I.

Marc: 00:09:33

Know of it, but not seen it.

Now.

Darren: 00:09:34

Do you understand what I mean by the implication?

Paul: 00:09:37

You see it's the implications.

Darren: 00:09:39

Right,.

Paul: 00:09:39

Yeah, I know what you're saying.

Darren: 00:09:41

Right.

It was just.

Paul: 00:09:42

Dennis.

I'll call you Dennis if you like.

Darren: 00:09:43

Yeah, totally.

So in always suddenly Philadelphia, I can't remember the storyline, what they want to do, but they want to take women out on a yacht.

Paul: 00:09:52

Yeah, something like that.

And.

Darren: 00:09:53

Then it's like.

And then he.

Paul: 00:09:54

Wants to get them laid.

Get laid with all these women.

And.

Darren: 00:09:57

Then he's like, well, why would these women have sex with this?

He's like, because of the implication.

Is that.

What do you mean?

Well, because of the implication of what might happen if they don't have sex with us.

And then he's like, are these women in trouble?

Are they in danger?

No, they're not in danger.

I didn't say that.

But there's an implication which is toxic as hell.

But if you haven't seen Always Sunny Philadelphia, it's a mismatch, or the most toxic character.

Paul: 00:10:17

That's kind of the point of the whole show.

It's very toxic.

Yeah.

Darren: 00:10:20

So him then rocking up to meet Rachel Bilson's character, which is.

Millie.

Millie.

And then being like, hey, we should go to Rome right now.

And she thought he was dead for 10 years or five years, whatever it was.

And then takes her to Rome, where she's got no allies and no real money.

She works.

Paul: 00:10:37

The implication, Darren.

Darren: 00:10:38

Exactly right.

It's like, oh, my God.

And then they have sex.

And I was like, interesting, because I didn't see any chemistry whatsoever between you two.

I didn't see any attraction and that you're.

They've known each other.

Paul: 00:10:49

Since they were five.

What more do you want?

Or whatever that.

Marc: 00:10:51

Childhood sweetheart.

Paul: 00:10:53

Sweethearts.

Yeah,.

Darren: 00:10:54

So yeah, I just.

I just thought that.

That.

Paul: 00:10:56

And the fact that she thought he was dead but he was in the corner stalking her and she knew that he was in the corner stalking her.

Darren: 00:11:03

She.

Marc: 00:11:03

Was like, oh my God, I thought you were dead.

Darren: 00:11:05

Yeah.

You've been over there for 45 minutes watching me.

Marc: 00:11:07

She would make a beeline for him.

I thought you were dead.

Paul: 00:11:09

Yeah, but.

Nah, she knew.

She knew.

Clearly.

Marc: 00:11:11

The movie actually jumps.

I work.

I looked it up when he robs the bank.

Paul: 00:11:15

Yeah.

Yeah.

Marc: 00:11:15

So he's 15.

Paul: 00:11:16

Yep.

Darren: 00:11:17

Right.

Marc: 00:11:17

It skips forward eight years but doesn't really let us know that.

No.

Cuz he doesn't look any different.

No,.

Darren: 00:11:22

He doesn't.

Marc: 00:11:22

So he's gone from 15 to 23.

What.

Paul: 00:11:25

Do you mean?

The actor changes.

It's like a young guy to Hayden.

You didn't know it, did you?

Marc: 00:11:30

Not really, no.

Darren: 00:11:31

Yeah,.

Marc: 00:11:32

See, even Darren didn't know.

Paul: 00:11:35

Oh no.

Marc: 00:11:37

So he's doing things as an adult.

I'm going, oh, you're 15.

But I didn't.

You.

Paul: 00:11:41

Thought it was the second.

Marc: 00:11:42

It wasn't made much of a point.

Darren: 00:11:44

Left school and he didn't continually get like.

He's just bouncing around now being a teenager with powers.

Paul: 00:11:50

Yeah, pretty much.

I.

Marc: 00:11:51

Was expecting someone much older if it skipped on eight years because 15 to 23 is a big development gap.

Paul: 00:11:56

But Rachel still liked it.

Marc: 00:11:59

Yeah.

Paul: 00:11:59

The fact you didn't notice it was a different actor's preferred.

I'm pretty sure it's a different actor got me thinking it now.

But yeah,.

Darren: 00:12:06

It was, it was.

It's really just things that I thought were funny.

Like at one point he teleports into an active war zone and him and Billy Elliot just like chatting away whilst there's soldiers and tanks going past.

One of them were like, who the.

Are those Americans there?

No one took a shot at them.

Paul: 00:12:27

Maybe that's.

They were like, it's Americans.

It's kind of thing they do.

They teleport and stuff.

Yeah, yeah.

Darren: 00:12:32

We.

Paul: 00:12:32

Have the greatest teleporters here.

Best teleporting abilities.

Darren: 00:12:36

It is bad.

Like I, I need to.

I need to make contact with some Americans and make them my friends.

Because when I watch movies and then, and then this guy rocks up at what's the location they go to?

Is it in Rome they go to.

Isn't it the Colosseum?

Is that.

Yeah.

And they're like, no, no, no, it's impossible, you can't go.

And it's all locked up.

And he's like, no,.

Paul: 00:12:54

Nothing's impossible.

Darren: 00:12:55

I'll just break in around here and trash all these statues and stuff.

I remember thinking, typical fucking American.

Paul: 00:13:02

So you've just thingy the American fan base.

Darren: 00:13:04

You want to turn the Coliseum into McDonald's, don't you?

That's what you want to do.

But I was saying it's a bad trait of mine.

I need to reign that in.

I need to be like, no Americans.

I know we get lovely messages in from America,.

Paul: 00:13:16

And you were mocking the fact in Independence Day.

It.

What are the bloody gonna do then?

You know, the depiction of us through them.

Darren: 00:13:21

Yeah, yeah.

Like, I dated an American.

She was lovely.

She was from Chicago.

She called me dear and hey, dear.

Paul: 00:13:26

In.

That's cool.

I know lots of Americans.

I like Americans.

I'm on your side.

Americans.

Darren: 00:13:32

Me too.

No.

Paul: 00:13:33

Matter what Darren says.

Darren: 00:13:35

But can you just not go around trashing other people's.

It's like team America.

That's what I think.

I think that's the link I made.

It was like, America.

Yeah, yeah,.

Paul: 00:13:45

I get that.

Darren: 00:13:46

Other than that, dude, I don't think we missed much at all.

Paul: 00:13:50

I feel like there's a little bit at the end where they're teasing potential sequels, where Kirsten Stewart pops up as his, I'm guessing, half sister.

Marc: 00:14:00

Is the sequels.

Paul: 00:14:01

No, I don't think this did well enough to get sequels.

But I feel like they were gonna build on that whole law of where they came from and how they learned to teleport.

I.

Darren: 00:14:13

Did think that I was like, okay,.

Paul: 00:14:13

Kirsten Stewart might have been in it as another character.

Darren: 00:14:16

So it's like, so you left your son when he was 5 and then went off and must have met someone else, had another kid.

Had, like, how old's that?

Like, she looks kind of the same age.

Paul: 00:14:28

Yes, she does.

Darren: 00:14:29

So it's.

Paul: 00:14:30

Awkward.

Darren: 00:14:31

Yeah.

Or she's five years younger.

Maybe.

Paul: 00:14:34

She's meant to be younger.

Darren: 00:14:35

Okay, so that means that she walked out the door, left her son and her husband, had sex with someone else immediately.

Nine months later, had a baby.

Paul: 00:14:44

I feel this was all explained in the sequel, though.

Darren: 00:14:47

But also, she had a kid.

Knowing that she's.

She had a kid who could teleport.

Paul: 00:14:53

Yeah.

And.

Darren: 00:14:54

Then was like, you know what I'm gonna do?

I'm gonna have another kid.

I'm sure this one won't be able to teleport.

Paul: 00:14:59

Teleportation is strong in our family.

My father has it, I have it.

Darren: 00:15:04

It's hardly.

It's like, what,.

Paul: 00:15:05

Sister has it?

Darren: 00:15:07

And then this isn't so much.

What do you miss.

But I had no recollection of this.

I didn't realize the people tracking him were called Paladins.

And Paladins is a like.

I think it's a Dungeons and Dragons word.

Like, Paladins were like warrior clerics, so they could, like, be badass and kill everyone, but they could also do healing spells.

I think.

Paul: 00:15:24

That's interesting.

I.

Darren: 00:15:25

Think that.

I think it's done.

I've definitely played as Paladin in like.

Like Ultima 4 or something like that.

They said old school masters, master system game.

Paul: 00:15:33

Oh, nice.

Darren: 00:15:36

So then it was interesting me that because usually when you have a mutation, the governments are coming after them to weaponize them and use them against their enemies.

And this time the government want no part of them.

They just want to kill them because it's against God.

But then it's not the government.

It's like a.

Probably a church spin off.

Paul: 00:15:54

It's never really explained though, is it?

Again, it's just like, oh, okay, he's ahead of the Paladins, and the Paladins hunt the jumpers.

And off we go.

Action.

There we go.

Darren: 00:16:03

That's exactly it.

I think that was it.

Paul: 00:16:04

Like bad guys, good guys, or slight bit of gray area.

Off you go.

Darren: 00:16:09

I could just see you pitching that now.

Paul: 00:16:10

Yeah.

So there's these like, jumping guys.

Yeah, yeah.

And then Samuel L. Jackson will lead the one to track them, and then they chase him down.

Boom.

Darren: 00:16:20

Yeah,.

Paul: 00:16:21

It's like the.

The guy who does the screen pictures and.

Darren: 00:16:23

Then like, of course.

So you're gonna.

Is this gonna be a commentary on, like, climate change or travel costs or government?

No, no, just.

Just.

Just.

Paul: 00:16:32

Jumping through stuff.

Darren: 00:16:33

Okay.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, it says here that Jamie Bell's gonna drive a double decker bus into your Jackson.

You're.

Paul: 00:16:39

Damn right.

Yes.

All.

Darren: 00:16:40

Right, cool.

Paul: 00:16:42

Approved.

Darren: 00:16:43

Exactly.

Take my money.

Marc: 00:16:46

So was she a mother who just abandoned her childhood or she doing.

Was she thinking of the child by.

Darren: 00:16:51

Yeah, she was.

She.

She was a.

She.

Marc: 00:16:53

Would have to kill.

Darren: 00:16:54

Him.

Otherwise.

She was a jumper killer.

Yeah.

So then she founds out her kids.

A jumper.

Marc: 00:16:59

Such a funny name.

Darren: 00:17:02

It's.

Marc: 00:17:02

Very serious.

Is it?

It doesn't carry much weight.

Paul: 00:17:05

Have you seen that film Jumper?

Is that the one about the Christmas jumper?

Darren: 00:17:08

Is that Colin Firth?

Is that a romantic comedy about a jumper that whoever wears it at Christmas falls in love?

Paul: 00:17:15

Approved.

Let's make that one Colin Firth in the jumper, too.

Yeah.

Is it about teleportation, the sequel?

No, no.

This one's about a jumper.

Darren: 00:17:27

Yeah, yeah.

Marc: 00:17:30

Sweater.

Paul: 00:17:30

Yes.

Oh, and Then jacket.

The end of the end of the trilogy.

Marc: 00:17:35

Trilogy.

Yeah, the jacket.

Darren: 00:17:38

Oh, just.

Just another thing.

Just Rachel Bielson.

It's Millie and Hayden Christensen.

Paul: 00:17:46

David Rice.

Darren: 00:17:47

They go on a plane for 10 hours, and then they get to their location and then she starts asking him questions.

What have you just spoken about for 10 hours?

Like,.

Marc: 00:17:57

She slept, Darren.

She slept all.

Darren: 00:17:58

The way down.

She slept with the whole 10 hours.

I slept.

Paul: 00:18:01

They caught up on other stuff.

Yeah, I guess,.

Darren: 00:18:03

Like, oh, hey, you.

You were dead.

How did you survive?

That.

Marc: 00:18:07

Would have been the first thing she would assume she saw him is what the.

Darren: 00:18:10

How do you have the money to take us to Rome?

Yeah.

What.

How did you get a passport?

I'd.

Marc: 00:18:16

Be like, I'm not going to step further to.

Well, tell me what the going on.

Paul: 00:18:20

Is going on.

Darren: 00:18:20

Like, he'd have to fake his identity because he's dead.

He's.

Marc: 00:18:25

Dead.

Yeah.

Darren: 00:18:25

They went to his funeral, surely,.

Paul: 00:18:27

But yet they all still call him Dave.

Marc: 00:18:29

There would have been a dead death certificate.

Darren: 00:18:30

Yes.

Marc: 00:18:31

All systems would have been notified as dead.

Darren: 00:18:33

How's he got a Social Security number and a passport and things like that.

Paul: 00:18:35

But his dad, Michael Rooker, you know, he knew he was still alive because he kept, like, pinging back to his room.

Darren: 00:18:41

Even though.

Paul: 00:18:42

Even though he had a lock on the door or something,.

Darren: 00:18:44

Which is weird.

But.

Paul: 00:18:46

Was the lock on the outside?

Darren: 00:18:47

Yeah.

Paul: 00:18:47

Yeah.

I didn't understand that.

Darren: 00:18:49

No.

He lives alone,.

Paul: 00:18:53

So I get if.

If Hayden, Chris, David Rice had blocked him from the inside of the door, but the fact that the lock was on the outside didn't throw me.

Darren: 00:19:01

Yeah, he was either locking him in or he was just being like, no one goes in that room, but.

Paul: 00:19:06

He wants to see him.

Marc: 00:19:08

Bolt cutters.

Right, I'm in.

Darren: 00:19:10

Yeah.

Paul: 00:19:10

But then he just jumps away.

Like the jumper.

No.

Darren: 00:19:13

So he's got the key.

Paul: 00:19:15

Yeah.

Well, that's what threw me, like, well, surely you can get in.

David, is that you?

It's like, oh,.

Darren: 00:19:19

Let me go get the key.

Why you just leave the key in the lock?

If what.

Why is it even.

Paul: 00:19:23

Locked?

Right, so that's what you might have missed.

The.

The mystery of the lock on the other side of the door.

Hopefully, some of these facts of the day will unravel these mysteries, but I don't think they will.

Marc: 00:19:33

Thank you, gentlemen.

Let's move on to Paul's facts of the day.

Paul: 00:19:37

So the crew was allowed to film inside the Roman Colosseum for three days under three conditions.

No equipment could be placed on the ground.

They could only shoot from 6.30am till 8.30am and then from 3.30pm to 5.30pm they must have been organized to do this then to avoid disturbing tourists.

And the only lighting allowed was natural sunlight, which is interesting.

If you try to shoot a film, I guess that is the actual Colosseum.

It's not some kind of effect.

It's quite a sad fact.

David Ritchie, who's a set dresser on the Toronto shoot, was killed while dismantling part of the set.

Darren: 00:20:14

Yeah.

Weirdly did a lesson on that recently.

Paul: 00:20:16

Did you.

Darren: 00:20:18

Risk assessments and health and safety on film sets and stuff?

Paul: 00:20:20

No.

It's sad that, isn't it?

When you hear, like, stuntmen and things, you can imagine maybe they're going to be in danger with some of the stuff they do.

Marc: 00:20:27

Or like blanks and guns.

Darren: 00:20:29

Yeah,.

Paul: 00:20:29

Well, yeah, we discussed that in the crowd, didn't we?

But yeah, something like set dresser.

That just seems shame.

So, as I've already mentioned, Hayden and Rachel met on the set of this and became engaged.

ut they split up in September: 2017

But they still keep on good terms and have a daughter.

Darren: 00:20:47

That's good.

You should keep on good terms when you have a daughter.

Paul: 00:20:50

There you go.

Marc: 00:20:51

Absolutely.

Paul: 00:20:52

That's the moral of today's story.

Darren: 00:20:54

It's like a He man episode.

Until next time.

Paul: 00:21:01

You can see today Skeletor.

Yeah.

The movie takes place in Ann Arbor, Michigan.

The high school depicted was Huron High School, where screenwriter David S. Goya attended.

Area teens were cast as extras for scenes in and around the school.

I've always said this.

It must be cool when school gets like, oh, we're going to shoot a film here, like a Hollywood film.

Do you want to be in it?

Like, yeah, put me in it.

Originally, Tom Stutteridge was cast as David and Teresa Palmer was cast as Millie.

And after two months of filming and rising production costs, Hayden Christensen and Rachel Bilson were recast as the leads.

So I don't know what went wrong there, but they.

I think it said this on the documentary I watched that they'd filmed however many months or weeks, and then they kind of scrapped it all and got some new leads.

Marc: 00:21:53

Wow.

Paul: 00:21:55

Been working.

This is the last film of actor Tom Hulk, who subsequently retired from acting to focus exclusively on his career as a theatrical producer.

I think he displayed a teacher or something in it, but I know him as he did the voice of Quasimodo in Lunch Back of Notre Dame.

The film uses the observation deck of the Empire State Building as one of David's jump sites and even Has a scene of him and Griffin plummeted, plummeting from it.

The idea is from the book, though the location was understandably changed from its original location, which was the World Trade center.

book actually takes place in: 1989

Be interesting to see, like, with these things where if the book's not that well known when the film comes out, does it boost the sales?

Darren: 00:22:42

Probably.

Paul: 00:22:42

It must do.

Surely the plastered over hidden room where David keeps his money and supplies is one of the few things taken from the original book.

So there are bits of the original book, Evan.

Rachel Wood turned down the role of Millie and the part went to Rachel instead.

This is an obvious one, but I'll tell you anyway.

David persuades Griffin that they should do a Marvel team up to take on Roland.

Darren: 00:23:03

Yeah, it does.

Paul: 00:23:04

The irony being, of course, that Samuel L. Jackson plays Nick Fury in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which, of course, you're all over.

Marc: 00:23:12

Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about there.

Paul: 00:23:14

The Fantastic Fantastic Four: 2015

I watched it recently.

It didn't have good reviews and yeah, it wasn't great.

The concept of a jump scar is an original invention of the film and would have caused many issues for the character in the original book if it had existed.

Darren: 00:23:39

Oh, nice.

Paul: 00:23:40

So the stuff they came up with and the stuff they put from the book, that was kind of a mess.

There's not that many facts for this film, but there we go.

There was quite a long documentary.

I watched a little bit of it and it was very much the director being amongst it all and.

Marc: 00:23:53

Okay, thank you very much, Paul.

That takes us nicely into hate it or rate it.

Okay, this was Darren's choice.

We're gonna go to him first.

Darren: 00:24:02

Ooh, this.

This movie is so much trash.

It's.

Can't even put it into words.

But I still had a ball watching it.

Like, I just.

I just thought, like.

And it feels like there should be meaning there.

Like, Hayden Christensen's called David Rice.

I'm like, well, that has no meaning.

Why has it got no meaning?

It's such an easy thing to do is just give someone a slightly interesting name.

And then Jamie Bell's called Griffin.

Griffin's like a mythical creature.

Like, what are you saying something clever there?

Or are you just.

Was it just random?

Is it just.

You use a random name Generator just went with that.

And why Samuel Jackson called Roland.

Roland can't save the day.

Roland isn't gonna win.

And then Rachel Bilson bless her.

She's like the Elizabeth Shoe of this movie.

Like, she's got hardly anything to do other than to be like, david, David, what's going on?

Ask a million.

Marc: 00:24:57

Questions.

Darren: 00:24:58

Yeah, okay, David, you don't need to tell me what's going on.

Okay, David, do you really need to tell me what's going on?

Paul: 00:25:05

She's very lovely, but.

Yeah, you're right.

Darren: 00:25:07

She's also like.

This is a really hard.

People don't always like it when I say this, but some people work on camera and some people don't.

I don't work on camera, which is why I'm on a podcast.

And some people also work on tv, but they don't work on film.

And it's a really weird thing.

But if you look at, say, who's the lady from Big Bang Theory?

Paul: 00:25:27

Kaylee Cuco.

Darren: 00:25:28

Yeah, she's great on tv, not good on film.

Rachel, you've.

Paul: 00:25:32

Seen him in films.

Darren: 00:25:33

Yeah, there's one, she's done two that I've seen.

One's about air hostess, I think, and one's like a spy thing.

Right, okay.

And then anyway.

But Rachel Bilson is wonderful on the oc.

Really great show.

She.

She just disappears on screen.

She just doesn't have any gravitas.

And I didn't believe their.

That there was any relationship there whatsoever,.

Paul: 00:25:56

Ironically, because the kind of sounds like there was.

Darren: 00:25:58

Yeah, see, that's it.

I've heard that in a movie somewhere that if.

If what movie is it?

It's where if you have sex like off screen, then the chemistry dies on screen.

Is.

Paul: 00:26:08

It America, Sweethearts or something like that?

Darren: 00:26:10

I don't know.

Paul: 00:26:11

I think.

Yeah.

Because,.

Marc: 00:26:12

Well, if they.

Before they do have sex, then there's the sexual tension.

Darren: 00:26:16

Yeah, totally.

Marc: 00:26:17

Which is then gone.

Darren: 00:26:17

Yeah, so exactly.

So there's two.

Yeah, exactly.

So I wasn't a big fan of that.

So it's just.

I mean, there's cool bits.

I thought it was really cool that you left a snow globe on the swing.

That was kind of cool.

But other than that.

And then it was just dumb.

Like, I haven't been abroad for ages because of your cost of living and had a kid.

But when I did go abroad, you have to get freaking vaccinations.

Like when I went to Thailand and Indonesia and stuff and he's bouncing, he's going through Africa.

It's like, you don't just get to go to Africa, you've got to have vaccinations to get this vaccinations you need probably like identification.

Yeah, it's like, it's.

You can't do it.

So it's just shockingly dumb.

And then it also, it just ends.

It's just.

Oh, the pales really.

Paul: 00:27:03

Does.

Darren: 00:27:03

The Paladins are hunting me down.

They're going to kill me.

Oh, I've caught Samuel Jackson.

See, I told you I'm not like other boys.

And then directed by.

Paul: 00:27:13

Michael Bay.

Darren: 00:27:13

Yeah,.

Marc: 00:27:15

Some huge scenes just to say a line like that.

Darren: 00:27:18

Yeah.

And it's like, so now he is going to get away from that mountain, wasn't.

He's not up Mount Everest.

I literally saw a path down.

He's going to get down.

He's then going to get the rest of the Paladins and he's going to kill like everyone you've ever spoken to, including Rachel and all her family.

Like, what are you doing?

So, yeah, ridiculous nonsense.

And that is everything semi intelligent I can say about it.

But I had a ball and I giggled my ass off.

So I'm going to give it 6.3.

But.

But it was all.

I should have said this.

It was all Jamie Bell, that he carried it for me.

Like when he was off screen, it dragged a bit.

But when Jamie Bell, I mean, he said the same.

You really don't understand, do you?

You really don't know this, do you?

You, you've been following.

He's new, he doesn't know shit.

Of course he doesn't understand.

But yeah, him just swaggering around with a baseball bat over his shoulder being like, I'm beat the shit out of those guys.

Paul: 00:28:11

Yeah, he did have swagger.

Darren: 00:28:12

Yeah.

Proper.

He had always.

He was all a farm in this whole movie.

Paul: 00:28:16

Good call.

Darren: 00:28:17

And I'm here for it.

Marc: 00:28:18

Yes.

I did not write this movie much.

It kind of passed me by.

I was watching it and.

Darren: 00:28:25

Things happened and then it ended.

Things stopped happening and.

Marc: 00:28:27

I was like, oh, okay, it's possible.

Oh yeah, I see what's in there.

And then it finished and I was like, okay, this move,.

Darren: 00:28:34

You look up on your phone like, wait, what?

No,.

Marc: 00:28:36

No.

How's.

Darren: 00:28:37

That?

The ending.

I.

Marc: 00:28:38

Do my best to try and not watch.

Even if I'm not enjoying it, I try and stick with it because sometimes I move.

We could like.

Paul: 00:28:43

Other guys.

Oh, is that it?

Marc: 00:28:46

Yeah.

I didn't like the characters.

Like there was no chemistry with anybody.

I didn't think,.

Paul: 00:28:51

Why is Darren laughing?

Like,.

Marc: 00:28:53

I didn't think it was particularly good lines.

I didn't think the script was very good.

I mean, I like when it started.

I like the concept of the Jumping.

And I thought, this is quite an interesting concept.

I wonder, because it's based off a book.

Darren: 00:29:06

Yeah,.

Marc: 00:29:06

I'm pretty sure.

I bet the book's better.

Darren: 00:29:08

Yeah, it would have to be.

Marc: 00:29:12

So, yeah, I just.

It just.

It was pretty uneventful.

There was part.

Parts where some quite.

Action scenes were a bit of tension as, oh, something's gonna happen here.

And it's just.

It just didn't do anything.

So.

Paul: 00:29:22

You wouldn't have greenlit a sequel either, then?

Marc: 00:29:24

Absolutely not.

It's not very interesting.

Not really.

Not much going on.

I mean, when Samuel L. Jackson came in, I was like, yeah, I like.

I like a bit of Samuel Jackson.

But even, even he wasn't enough to sort of change the.

The direction of this.

I'll pull it.

Pull it up a bit.

Just.

It was a bit weak.

Darren: 00:29:41

Yeah.

And it's also, yeah, you get the power to teleport, but he's just, oh, I'm gonna get rich and be a tourist.

So you can literally teleport people to hospital.

Yeah, you could save people.

Marc: 00:29:53

I didn't really get the whole.

It was like such a big thing why they were after them.

Like, just because they can jump diamond, like jump wherever they want.

It's like, really, why is that such a problem?

I got the religious side of it, but it's just like, it wasn't convincing enough.

It wasn't like, oh, I have the real danger here.

Nah.

So I'm gonna give it a 4.2.

Over to you, Paul.

Paul: 00:30:12

Okay.

I agree with everything you both said.

I feel like I'm somewhere in the middle with it.

I think it's okay.

I think it's probably for what it is in its cheesiness or whatever you want to call it.

I like the concept.

I've seen it a few times.

So I must go back to it for some reason.

Yeah.

Marc: 00:30:31

I would watch it again just to see if there's things I've missed or just see if there's a.

A different experience.

I.

Paul: 00:30:35

Feel like it's a fun, light watch.

You can tune your brain out.

It's.

Marc: 00:30:40

A light movie.

Paul: 00:30:41

Yeah.

But I think again, I've said this before when I've done films, when I've watched the behind the scenes and I've like, oh, actually it's really clever how they've done that.

But when you watch it, you just kind of take it and go.

Yeah, yeah, okay.

Travel from there, who cares?

But then like jumping between the bank vault and the library and getting the water in the library and doing all these things.

It's like you kind of just go, okay, what's going on there?

But to.

To actually make that effect and make it real, the sets and everything and all the stuff that went behind, I'm like, oh, actually, yeah, it's quite a lot going on.

So.

Marc: 00:31:12

So much work got into it.

That's your bingo.

Paul: 00:31:14

Line.

I'm not saying it again.

I've already given them that bingo line this episode.

I'll save it for another one.

Darren: 00:31:19

Also.

Sorry to interrupt.

Paul: 00:31:21

No, no, go on.

Darren: 00:31:23

When he's in the water, he teleports, but wasn't looking at anything.

So why does he then have to look at pictures where he's been before?

Marc: 00:31:30

It's almost like, can he just think something in his mind and take him there?

Darren: 00:31:33

Yeah.

Paul: 00:31:33

Does it help him get there?

Marc: 00:31:35

I thought.

Yeah, I thought something physical.

I'm gonna go there.

Yeah.

Well, if you're looking at Mount Everest, you can go there.

Darren: 00:31:42

He had to have been there before as well, right?

Paul: 00:31:43

Yes.

So that could have been more interesting because initially he would have had to have gone to them places to get them on his radar.

So I'm guessing when he though all them years that we didn't see is him traveling around on a plane to go to these places without.

Darren: 00:32:00

Passport or any identity.

Paul: 00:32:03

There's a few loopholes in this, isn't there?

So.

Marc: 00:32:04

I get to the airport and I can look at the plane through the window.

Just jump in the plane.

I'm there.

Are.

Paul: 00:32:08

You David Rice?

Yes, that's right.

Are you not dead?

No, I'm a teleporter.

Gone.

I don't know.

There's a few.

Few issues, but if you turn your brain off and kind of just enjoy the cat and mouse chase of it.

And I like Rachel, so that helps.

Darren: 00:32:24

Yeah,.

Paul: 00:32:25

Yeah, It's.

It's okay.

I. I enjoyed it.

It was fine.

I. I'll give it a. I'm doing that thing where I'm.

Darren: 00:32:36

He gave it six something and I gave it four something.

Marc: 00:32:38

No, I gave it 4.2.

You give it 6.3.

Darren: 00:32:40

Yeah, that's what it says.

Paul: 00:32:42

Jimmy completely dove info.

I was thinking I was going to give it a six when I watched it.

Darren: 00:32:47

Six or seven.

Marc: 00:32:48

That's diamonds.

Bingo.

Paul: 00:32:50

Bingo.

Marc: 00:32:53

So that gives it 16.5, which puts it in 69th,.

Darren: 00:32:57

69.

Marc: 00:32:59

Of 95.

Darren: 00:33:01

Ah, jumper.

Paul: 00:33:03

It's done pretty good.

It's done better than I thought it would.

Marc: 00:33:05

sible and just behind Charade: 1963

So that's what we thought of the movie.

We'd love to know what you think.

Send us in your messages.

Sends in your thoughts.

Center in your own rating out of 10 or read them out on the show.

So what episodes in our back catalog might be a good follow up to this.

Darren: 00:33:27

Actually a lot of the trash you guys like.

So probably Hot Shots part two.

Paul: 00:33:33

We haven't seen two yet.

I.

Darren: 00:33:35

Know, it's my fear.

Shall.

Paul: 00:33:36

I look on Netflix.

Darren: 00:33:37

Right now?

What else like Running man do we do Running.

Marc: 00:33:42

Man?

Yeah,.

Darren: 00:33:43

I think that would do it.

Paul: 00:33:43

Yeah.

That's good call.

What about the Bond identity?

Same director.

Marc: 00:33:46

Yes.

Paul: 00:33:47

I mean, yeah, a bit of chase scene.

Yeah,.

Marc: 00:33:49

I've done an episode on that.

So yeah, have a rifle through our back catalog and take your pick.

Okay, cool.

That takes us into part three.

The inbox.

So Halimanis sent us a message and this is in follow up to her spotting the newscaster of sky news from the 90s, Bob Friend who popped up in Mission Impossible.

Oh,.

Paul: 00:34:14

Yes,.

Marc: 00:34:15

He was the usual.

Oh yeah.

No, not in him.

Not him.

Paul: 00:34:18

Oh, sorry.

Yeah, the newscaster.

Yeah, yeah, he was always there as well.

Marc: 00:34:21

Yeah.

Bob Friend pops up in Independence Day too.

Paul: 00:34:24

Oh, he probably does on one of them screens.

Marc: 00:34:28

I will look out for him on the re watch.

Then she says, ready player one.

So she's obviously watched that.

She gives it a four out of ten.

She says my heart sank when I realized there were still two more keys to find.

The nostalgia was cool, but it really just reminded me of all the good films I could have been watching instead.

Then she's put the Shining I could watch on repeat.

Dash, the best Christmas movie after the thing.

Question mark.

Paul: 00:34:53

She likes a horror.

She said this.

Marc: 00:34:57

I wouldn't be against doing.

We haven't done any really nothing to speak of.

Paul: 00:35:01

It's because they're scary.

Marc: 00:35:02

I'm just.

I'm surprised Darren hasn't chose anything from John Carpenter.

Darren: 00:35:07

Yeah, I'm too scared because we did Big Trouble Little China.

Marc: 00:35:12

Yeah.

Darren: 00:35:13

Although.

Paul: 00:35:14

I was.

That.

Marc: 00:35:15

Can't be hit.

That can't be said for all of his stuff.

Paul: 00:35:17

I was fairly new to it though and quite enjoyed it.

And you two had this nostalgia for it.

Didn't enjoy it.

So that was a bit weird.

Marc: 00:35:24

Okay.

Also actually.

Darren: 00:35:25

Big Trouble Little China would be a good episode after.

After Jumper.

Marc: 00:35:28

Yes.

Same.

Darren: 00:35:29

Kind of comedy.

Marc: 00:35:29

Yes, it would.

Carlson Stanton on Awakenings.

He's obviously comments on it going back the Oscars were really interesting.

That following year, Best picture and adapted screenplay went to Dances with Wolves and best actor went to Jeremy Irons for Reversal of Fortune in brackets.

I want to watch this now.

And you put yes, I am listening to your back catalog in a random order of whatever grabs me at the time.

The more I listen, the more I realize how lucky I was that Darren likes my choice.

Paul: 00:35:59

Yeah, you were.

Yeah, you were.

Darren: 00:36:02

What was his choice?

Marc: 00:36:04

What was his job?

Field of Dreams.

Darren: 00:36:06

Yeah, that was good, actually.

Yeah, I. I like that quite a bit.

Marc: 00:36:10

Thanks for messaging, guys.

If you want to send us a message, if you want us to read out anything on the show, if you've got a story to tell us, you want to ask any questions, if you want to put a question to our fellow listeners, send them in and we'll read them out on the show.

Right, then, the last act, next week's movie.

It's over to Paul.

Paul: 00:36:27

Yeah.

So I've looked through some really good films.

Darren: 00:36:30

And then chose.

Marc: 00:36:32

A really terrible one.

Paul: 00:36:33

Well, some.

Sometimes I like to be aware of the algorithm and try and get some more listeners.

And also it's fun to get Darren to watch a film that's not fondly thought of, just to see if he says it's so bad it's good, or goes, this is the biggest pile of crap since.

Marc: 00:36:53

Occasionally he throws us a curveball.

Paul: 00:36:55

I know.

I'm gonna say Velocipasta 2 just to see his eyes go, no.

And then throw my actual choice, which is they.

They're bringing out a new movie of this.

This is why I want to get in the algorithms.

And I've just seen the original 90s version of it is on Netflix.

It's based off a video game called Street Fire.

Darren: 00:37:16

Oh, yeah.

Paul: 00:37:17

And this is the John Claude Van Damme.

I didn't have this on my bingo card.

I just spotted it.

Marc: 00:37:22

I have seen this.

Paul: 00:37:23

Before.

I did.

Kylie's in it.

Marc: 00:37:25

Yeah.

Yep.

Paul: 00:37:27

Yeah.

And of course, Raoul Julia is in it as Bison and he wasn't very well, but he delivers, if I remember right.

Marc: 00:37:36

So is there a new movie coming out of this?

Paul: 00:37:37

So there's a new movie off Street.

Darren: 00:37:38

Fighter in cinemas now.

Paul: 00:37:39

Is it now?

Yeah.

So I might be a bit late with this in the algorithm, but I'm going to throw out just in case, because people might be on the Street Fighter kick and no pun intended, but yeah, this is not what I was going to pick at all.

I had a few indie movies that were going to be sort of a bit more thoughtful and dramatic, but you know what?

I'm going to do them next time for this particular one.

Let's do Street Fighter just for the comedy value.

If Darren does think it's shit, I have a feeling for me it's one of them.

That it's so crap that I quite enjoy it.

Marc: 00:38:14

Yeah, get your caveats in early.

Come on.

Paul: 00:38:16

Yeah, yeah,.

Darren: 00:38:17

I think I've seen it twice.

And there's an animated like an anime version of Street Fighter.

Oh,.

Paul: 00:38:22

That's supposed to be quite good though, isn't.

Darren: 00:38:23

It?

Really good.

Well,.

Marc: 00:38:24

It blends better well with the game version.

Paul: 00:38:27

Yeah, we're not picking that.

Darren: 00:38:28

No,.

Marc: 00:38:30

The new one's got Roman Reigns in it of WWE fame.

Paul: 00:38:34

It looks like they've made it in a very.

Darren: 00:38:37

Self aware way.

Paul: 00:38:38

Yes, that's the one.

Whereas this original one, who knows, who knows what they were thinking.

We will re watch it and see.

Marc: 00:38:45

There we go.

Street Fight.

What year was it?

Paul: 00:38:48

90.

Don't know.

It was early, wasn't it?

Early 90s, 92, 93.

Marc: 00:38:53

Okay.

It's on Netflix.

Paul: 00:38:54

Yeah.

Marc: 00:38:55

Excellent.

Okay.

Next week's movie is street fighter, chosen by Mr. Paul Day.

Okay.

The.

Paul: 00:39:00

Things I do for the algorithm.

Marc: 00:39:02

I know, I know.

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This episode is officially over.

This is Mark saying goodbye.

This.

Darren: 00:39:18

Is diamond saying goodbye for now.

Only God.

Paul: 00:39:20

Should have the power to be all places at all times.

Darren: 00:39:23

But he doesn't have the power to be at all places at all times.

I.

Paul: 00:39:26

Know.

Well, you tell somebody about Jackson.

You tell Roland that.