Project Hail Mary - In A Nutshell(Cinema Social)

Darren: 00:00:00

Can we like kill Paul and take all his organs? But it keeps nine people alive.

Paul: 00:00:04

Why do I always have to get sacrificed?

Darren: 00:00:07

You look like you've got some good organs.

Marc: 00:00:08

You live clean, healthy life. You don't drink, you don't smoke.

Paul: 00:00:11

Yeah, I knew that I'd kick me in the ass at some point.

Darren: 00:00:13

I'd run a sexual position named after me.

Marc: 00:00:16

The Horn.

Darren: 00:00:16

What are you doing? The re entry.

Marc: 00:00:33

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Paul: 00:00:37

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So grab some popcorn and let's crack open this week's movie. Here we are then, Project Helm Mary. Our latest cinema, Social. I think we all had a good time. Did you guys gentlemen have a good time?

Darren: 00:01:07

It's always good to go to the cinema and support our local industries.

Paul: 00:01:10

Yep.

Marc: 00:01:11

And meet some friends.

Paul: 00:01:12

Had a good time to say it.

Marc: 00:01:15

We'll. We'll do a full recap later in the episode.

Paul: 00:01:17

For now, nutshell.

Marc: 00:01:18

At first, let's get down to business because if people are listening to this now, when this movie's just come out, they want to know what it's about right now this is part one, which we call the nutshell. So this is where we break the movie down. Spoiler free to help you decide if Project Hail Mary is your kind of movie and if it's worth your time.

So, gentlemen, how do we break this down with movie which we've only just seen? Just. Just the other day? How do we break it down?

Darren: 00:01:36

It's cast away in space, kind of.

Marc: 00:01:38

Oh, I like that. I like them vibes.

Paul: 00:01:40

It's Passengers meets ET With a bit of gravity thrown in and some interstellar pinch of Armageddon and a sprinkling of contact. Like it alien in the mix maybe somewhere.

Darren: 00:01:51

No, it's more kind of buddy movie, more kind of fun. So like Beverly Hills Cop or something.

Paul: 00:01:57

Do you know which one? I randomly thought of? But it's completely a different genre.

Marc: 00:02:00

You always do this.

Paul: 00:02:01

I know A Knight's Tale because it's kind of. Okay, so a Knight's Tale is a medieval Y sort of thing, but it's got this jaunty comedy angle to it.

So they're all in the stadium doing jousting, but they're all singing We Will Rock youk. And I don't know why it just made me think of this. It's like. It's a space film. It's Space Odyssey. It's all the things we've just said. Interstellar.

But it's like you said, Darren, at the heart of it, like this buddy comedy. So it's got this kind of little twist. So it's a bit of a random comparison, but.

Marc: 00:02:25

So I've written down the premises. A school science teacher wakes up alone on a spaceship with no memory of how he got there.

As his memory slowly returns, he realizes the magnitude of the mission he's on and its implications to the future of planet Earth.

Darren: 00:02:36

Dun, dun, dun.

Marc: 00:02:38

Solid.

Darren: 00:02:39

And Ryan Gosling is in it, looking fine.

Paul: 00:02:42

It's true.

Marc: 00:02:43

He's a good looking man.

Darren: 00:02:44

He's an annoyingly, like, supernaturally attractive man.

Paul: 00:02:48

He also comes across so laid back in.

Marc: 00:02:50

He's very laid back and nice guy.

Darren: 00:02:52

He loves his children and he's funny.

Marc: 00:02:54

Yeah.

Paul: 00:02:56

Some of my favorite interviews of all time is him with Harrison Ford.

Marc: 00:03:00

Oh, yeah, I've seen that.

Paul: 00:03:00

Yeah. The Blade Runner tour that they did. Oh, hilarious. Harrison for.

Darren: 00:03:04

Between him and Henry Cavill, they've just got all women kind of cornered. I think pretty much we've got. No. Yeah, we can't compete.

Paul: 00:03:10

No.

Marc: 00:03:10

I saw. Obviously I didn't look this up at all before we saw it, but after I've. I've been looking stuff up and I saw someone did for the trailer. Someone.

One of the YouTube comments was in. It had it first. It had brackets. It said. Was it trailer man voice?

What if saving the world came down to one man who doesn't even remember why he's there?

Darren: 00:03:25

Nice.

Paul: 00:03:26

That's a good nutshell in itself, I think. Yeah.

Marc: 00:03:28

I had the Martian meets Interstellar with a comedic buddy twist.

Darren: 00:03:31

Yeah, the Martian was written by the same person.

Paul: 00:03:34

There is a lot of the Martian in there, but Martians got bits of lightheartedness. But the tone of. It's a bit more serious, isn't it?

Marc: 00:03:40

This is very lighthearted and for the.

Paul: 00:03:41

Majority of it, yeah, this is almost got a bit of Guardians of the Galaxy in.

Darren: 00:03:45

Well, it's also directed by the same people who mainly did animation. So the Lego Lego Movie, everything is awesome. It's a very optimistic. This is a very optimistic, happy movie, much like the Lego Movie Is they.

Paul: 00:03:57

Also did the Spider verse movie.

Marc: 00:03:59

They did.

Darren: 00:03:59

Which is phenomenal.

Paul: 00:04:00

Yeah. And 21 Jump Street. Yeah.

Darren: 00:04:02

Which is the buddy comedy.

Marc: 00:04:03

It's a bit.

Paul: 00:04:04

Yeah.

Marc: 00:04:04

Left field led.

Darren: 00:04:05

Yeah.

Paul: 00:04:05

Cloudy with the chance of meatballs. Have you seen that one?

Darren: 00:04:07

Yeah, once.

Paul: 00:04:08

That's a fun film. That's another animation one.

Marc: 00:04:10

So it's high concept, sci fi, character driven, problem solving, heavy, which I liked. And it's surprisingly emotional and I'll just leave it at that.

Paul: 00:04:17

There's very much a balance between the emotional and the comedy.

Marc: 00:04:20

Yes.

Paul: 00:04:21

So don't expect it to be too serious. But there are moments of serious things going on. But at the same time, all the way through it, there's these buddy comedy, cute moments.

Probably good way to describe it.

Marc: 00:04:31

Well, it's a good blend. It's a good blend.

Paul: 00:04:32

Yeah.

Marc: 00:04:32

So if this wasn't at the cinema. Darren, what kind of watch is this? Where are you watching it? What are you doing?

Darren: 00:04:36

I think it's a really nice date movie. I think that could work. Not. Not necessarily like a new date movie, but it's one you can watch in your relationship. I think it is that kind of vibe.

It's not like a friends round beers movie. And if you go to think you could watch it on your own.

It's sweet and it's uplifting and it makes you believe people can be better and that there's hope and that the human race won't destroy itself.

Paul: 00:04:57

And it's 2 hours 36 though. Keep that in mind.

Marc: 00:04:59

Bear that in mind. Yes, it's a very important factor when choosing films for people. Let's move on to part two, the unboxing.

So in part two, the unboxing, spoiler territory ahead.

If you haven't seen the movie and we've helped you decide to go watch it, we recommend you go and do so now because from this point forward there will be spoilers. In the unboxing we have what did you miss? Where we reveal things you may have missed even if you've seen the movie many times.

Paul has his formidable facts of the day and we round off with hate it or rate it, where we each give our brief opinions, score out of 10 and we see where it lands. On the Legend League, I'll open it up.

Anything someone might have missed in this movie, even though we've just seen it and it's only just come out, I've.

Paul: 00:05:38

Got one that's nothing to do with the story.

Marc: 00:05:40

Okay.

Paul: 00:05:40

And it's about the technical of it, which was the shifting aspect ratios in the Film, we're in spoiler zone. So you've gone this far, it's your own fault.

In the film, there's flashbacks to remembering his memory and where he was before he was on the spacecraft. Every time he's on the spacecraft, it's kind of a 16,9. So like the less wide and that'll be because it's for the imacs, probably.

And then whenever it goes back in time, it's on. Have I got them the right way around? Yeah, it goes sort of slightly wider screen. And then when it was in the future, it was.

So I was thinking to myself, I bet this is quite immense on an imax, if that is an IMAX format,.

Marc: 00:06:16

I'm gonna be honest.

Paul: 00:06:16

Ratio.

Marc: 00:06:17

I didn't notice that.

Paul: 00:06:17

Did you not notice? Oh, okay.

Marc: 00:06:18

Did you notice that, Darren?

Darren: 00:06:19

I did not.

Paul: 00:06:20

Oh, there you go.

Marc: 00:06:20

You're just such a movie nerd, you notice these things.

Paul: 00:06:22

Well, I tell you, he does it quite a lot. Christopher Nolan does it quite a lot.

He has sequences that he films in IMAX, so when you buy the 4K or the Blu Ray or something, so stuff like the Dark Knight or Interstellar or Dunkirk, they have these scenes which he's filmed in imax. So when you're watching it at home, some of the film will have the black bars. So it's in anamorphic wide, super wide.

And then every now and again it'll cut to a scene or a sequence where it goes full screen. And it's because he's used the big IMAX cameras and it is phenomenal on most Christopher Nolan films. So, yeah, I took that away as a big giant nerd.

Marc: 00:06:53

I didn't know. I didn't notice. But I read that up at the time. It was intentional to differentiate between the past and the present.

Paul: 00:06:59

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Marc: 00:06:59

But no, it went a completely one over my head.

Paul: 00:07:02

Okay, sorry. I've never felt nerdier.

Darren: 00:07:08

Paul gave the smuggiest look.

Marc: 00:07:11

I missed that.

Paul: 00:07:11

I will take this smugness while you're here.

Marc: 00:07:14

You bring the nerdiness.

Paul: 00:07:15

Yeah. Darren, what did we miss in the story, though? Because I'm not sure.

Darren: 00:07:18

Yeah, I've got a couple. The more obvious one is this. Feels like it's quite a religious vibe, but I don't think it goes that deep on it. So it's called Project Hail Mary.

And we hail Mary when we are praying to Mary, Jesus's mother, to help us achieve the things that we want to achieve.

Marc: 00:07:34

How do they explain it in the movie? Is it a drink?

Darren: 00:07:36

They don't. It's called.

Marc: 00:07:37

I'm sure they did. Didn't they explain the name? Isn't it relinked? Isn't that a drink?

Paul: 00:07:41

No, it's something to do with American football. The Hail Mary pass, wasn't it?

Marc: 00:07:45

I'm sure they explained it in the movie.

Paul: 00:07:46

I think it was something to do with the football Hail Mary pass.

Marc: 00:07:49

Oh, okay.

Paul: 00:07:50

Because they were describing it to Ryan Gosling.

Marc: 00:07:52

I'm probably thinking of a bloody Mary.

Darren: 00:07:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you probably are. But again, that's still going to come from Mary, surely.

Paul: 00:07:57

Yeah, I think so.

Darren: 00:07:58

So it's going. You're basically getting Mary to be like, hey, can you just have a word with your son and get him to freaking get these lottery numbers to come in.

That's kind of what it is. So he's kind of.

Paul: 00:08:07

And the ship's called Mary, isn't it? That's what they call.

Darren: 00:08:10

Yeah, he calls it Mary. Yeah, I think it is. And then he's called. His second name is Grace. So it's Ryan and Grace, isn't it?

So that's a, you know, religious or kind of spiritual phrase. And then he is basically being Jesus. He's.

Paul: 00:08:23

He's the savior of.

Darren: 00:08:24

Yeah, they're literally sacrificing him for the good of humanity and he doesn't want to go because he was kind of journey thing like refusing the call. But there is that element, like are you willing to do that?

So that's kind of intriguing to me because it isn't heavily handedly done it but it is this idea of sacrificing yourself for greater good. Greater good.

But then alongside this, the movie is pro force conscription because the government are basically saying we need you to do this for the good of the government. And you know, they can say it's a human race, whatever, but you know, you're doing this, we're going to make you do this against your will.

You have no choice.

Paul: 00:09:01

That was quite shocking, that scene because all up to there you were thinking like, how is he going to get on this? Because he really doesn't want to go.

Marc: 00:09:06

That's probably one of the deepest moments I was thinking when he, when they suggested you should do it and he was like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a space man, I'm not, I'm not astronaut. Like how do you think he get. How did he end up on the ship, like doing it then? That's how.

Darren: 00:09:17

Yeah, yeah.

Marc: 00:09:18

It's quite shocking really.

Paul: 00:09:19

Drugged him out.

Darren: 00:09:21

Yeah, exactly. They put him in a drug induced coma and so we don't know if it's because they did it that way that causes memory loss. They did.

Or would if the other astronauts had survived or they have had memory loss. Because it was. Was it part of the journey? But people go into comas and don't have memory loss. You know, that's a weird thing.

So yeah, it was intriguing morally, like, would we do that?

Marc: 00:09:41

If it came down to it, would that happen?

Darren: 00:09:42

But then that's like that whole argument, like, if you've got 10 people and they all need organization, can we like kill Paul and take all these organs? But it keeps nine people alive.

Paul: 00:09:52

Why do I always have to get sacrificed?

Darren: 00:09:54

You look like you've got some good organs.

Marc: 00:09:56

You live clean, healthy life. You don't drink, you don't smoke.

Paul: 00:09:58

Yeah, I knew that. Kick me in the ass at some point.

Darren: 00:10:01

I bet your liver's just like a baby's liver.

Paul: 00:10:04

Darren's rubbing his hands together.

Darren: 00:10:06

I will buy your liver from you. So, yeah, it's intriguing that you've got this like forced conscription idea.

And I didn't quite catch it until I kind of walked away and was thinking about it afterwards. I was like, wait, that was a really freaking scummy thing to do. Like. Yeah. And it feels like a long shot.

Like they're just forcing him to do it and then expect him to save the day anyway. Then you've got the fact, which is very current right now. Two things that are quite common right now.

One is that in order to save humanity, two species from different cultures, from different languages need to work together. Humanity can't even do that with each other.

Paul: 00:10:40

That's a depressing but funny thought.

Darren: 00:10:42

Yeah, right, yeah. It's like this guy can communicate with an alien and get on, but we can't do it with.

Marc: 00:10:48

Amongst ourselves.

Darren: 00:10:49

Yeah. At all. Which is atrocious. And then that builds on the male loneliness epidemic that we've got now.

Which is also the least believable part of this movie. The fact that Ryan Gosling doesn't have friends. Oh, yeah, that's true.

Ryan Gosling, this guy who's teaching what, 10 year olds at parents evening, doesn't have a queue of single mothers waiting to suck his cock. I think that this is a bit fake.

Paul: 00:11:12

I think there's the teaser.

Marc: 00:11:15

I think that's why it's only a 12.

Darren: 00:11:18

I just called bullshit.

Paul: 00:11:19

It's like he had glasses on. He was clear.

Marc: 00:11:21

They nerdied him up.

Darren: 00:11:22

Yeah, yeah, that was it. He's got.

If he didn't have those glasses yeah, but he is, he is lonely and there's a lot, you know, we know that mental health issues with middle aged men is horrific right now. And the fact that he's then lonely and then can only become happy to make it a friend.

And can't make friends with humans, but can't make friends with an alien. I just find it interesting.

Marc: 00:11:43

It is interesting.

Darren: 00:11:43

That's what we all need, just to meet a weird alien.

Paul: 00:11:46

Cute, weird alien.

Marc: 00:11:47

One thing I liked about this, the way this story was untold, is that we didn't know any more than he did every time he was remembering something. So we were in on it as well. We were sort of with him. We weren't behind him or ahead of him, we were just with him.

So every time something got revealed, we were there as well. I quite like it when films do that. We already know what's happening. We're watching him find out what we already know. Like Truman Show.

Paul: 00:12:04

Yeah, yeah. The unfolding of it. So something else you might have missed is I think we expect now everything just to be computer graphics, don't we?

And expected the rock monster to be some kind of computer graphics. But it wasn't. It was all done puppeteering, actual hands.

Marc: 00:12:18

It's only when I've looked it up and I've saw him, he's doing like a press tour with Rocket.

Paul: 00:12:22

That's right.

Marc: 00:12:22

Yeah. Holding the fist bumps.

Paul: 00:12:24

Yeah, yeah. And they did like a La La Land parody.

Marc: 00:12:26

Yeah.

Paul: 00:12:27

Of them doing the correct on the hands. Yeah. And that must have been a lot better for Ryan Gosling because he spent. Spends the majority of this movie on his own.

But to actually have something to play off that's physically there must have been a lot more useful for his performance in the mix.

Darren: 00:12:44

Yeah, I think so too.

Paul: 00:12:45

Brings it to life.

Marc: 00:12:46

And the way the story unfolds, it creates a constant sense of tension. So every time he learns something or every time he makes a mistake, it creates tension. You feel like you're the other one with him, rather than.

Like I said, we already know what's coming. It's just, how does he, how does he get, how does he get there?

Like in Sliding Doors, we kind of know roughly what's gonna happen one way or the other. But you're just watching her go through it until she gets to the end at different speeds. Yeah.

Paul: 00:13:06

You've got them two narrative running side by side, similar to Sliding Doors, haven't you? Where it's jumping back and forth. Well, obviously it's the same timeline in this instance.

Darren: 00:13:13

Would you Guys get on the ship.

Marc: 00:13:15

Well, I mean, you mean if you were the only hope, would you just willingly do it?

Darren: 00:13:17

You mean if you were him?

Marc: 00:13:18

Yeah, probably.

Paul: 00:13:19

And I must admit, as much as I think I'd run around going like, no. I think I'd be like, well, if it's all going to end anyway, I might as well give it a go.

Marc: 00:13:26

It's about self belief. Because if he didn't, if he didn't genuinely believe in his own abilities to do what they wanted him to do, then he wouldn't want to do it.

But if you, if you truly believed in, like you could solve this problem, you realized if I don't, then we're all going to die a slow painful death, then why not?

Darren: 00:13:41

See, I'm quite petty because his whole thing of like, you, you know, I wrote this paper that turns out it was right and you all shat on me and fired. Now you want me and I now been teaching kids and now you come to me and be like, oh, like, where's the money?

Marc: 00:13:57

Yeah, they come to and go get in the car.

Darren: 00:13:58

Yeah, exactly. I'm like, no, you can go screw yourselves. Like, no, I'm. Yeah, I'm, I'm quite petty.

But I think one of the other scientists said, you know, it's not heroic. You just think of the person that you're doing it for.

I'm like, well, if you haven't got anyone that you're doing it for and it's so then it's just an abstract idea of humanity and it's humanity who are destroying the planet and that whole thing. Isn't it because she says something like, the food will last if we all get on and we all kind of negotiate each other, which we're not going to do.

So he's in the brink of destruction, we're still gonna all turn against each other. And you want me to sacrifice myself for these people?

Marc: 00:14:30

I see what you say.

Paul: 00:14:31

See the rom com moment I thought that was gonna come out of it was where he was like, oh, there's no one to do it for. I thought him and the, the boss lady, yeah, we're gonna get it on. And then that was the moment she was like, no, you're still going.

And she drugged him in three minutes. I'm like, okay, this is not where I thought it was gonna go.

Yeah, but maybe they built that up on purpose because there was kind of a few scenes where you're like, oh, are they sparking a bit? And then it's like now she just stabs him and throws him on the.

Darren: 00:14:56

Exactly. I'd like to think I would, but at the same time, because you'll be remembered a hero. I'm like, who do I look like, Achilles?

Paul: 00:15:06

They'd have statues made of you and everything.

Darren: 00:15:08

I don't think they would. You know, I think they say they would, but I don't think they would. And that's also only if you're successful.

Paul: 00:15:14

Yeah, that's true.

Darren: 00:15:15

If you're not successful, they would die anyway.

Paul: 00:15:17

See, this is. This is the grim way. Look at it. Almost reminds me of the Armageddon thing.

All the oil drillers go into space and they come with the demands, don't they?

Darren: 00:15:24

Damn. Like never to pay taxes again.

Paul: 00:15:25

Never pay taxes again. Yeah, exactly. It's like you never did anything.

Marc: 00:15:28

If I do this, if I see the planet, I want rewarding.

Darren: 00:15:30

Yeah, yeah, totally. I don't want to be knighted before I left, at least.

Paul: 00:15:34

Yeah, that's fair.

Marc: 00:15:35

Legacy.

Darren: 00:15:36

Yeah, quite right. I want bridges named after me. I don't want a sexual position named after me.

Marc: 00:15:40

The horn.

Darren: 00:15:41

What are you doing a re entry?

Marc: 00:15:48

Oh, dear. Where do we go from there?

Paul: 00:15:50

I'm doing the Sir Darren horn. Yeah, yeah.

Marc: 00:15:52

Oh, dear.

Paul: 00:15:53

Where do we go from there? I don't know.

Marc: 00:15:55

I can see the memes now. So something else people might.

Paul: 00:15:59

There's your question of the week.

Marc: 00:16:00

Yeah. You can have a sexual position named after you.

Paul: 00:16:03

What would it be called?

Marc: 00:16:04

Yeah, something else people might. Might have missed. And I've only. When doing my research after, it's like. Oh, yeah.

It's like with this being film being so long, it was a surprising amount of science layered through the film at different levels, which is. I mean, the science. The science industry loves. But like when he's in the classroom, there were parts of it where he was.

They were showing parts of the physics that he was going through. Then when he was on his own, there were certain things when he was talking to himself or he was trying to figure stuff out.

And then there was Rocky and they were both trying to work with it. There was a lot of basic science in there. I didn't really realize that it moved quite fast, the film. So. But then when I've looked through it after.

Yeah, that's true. So that was one thing I realized that the science community like this film for that in the uk, it's similar to the other.

You two seen Clarkson's farm?

Paul: 00:16:41

Some bits of it.

Marc: 00:16:41

You know, the concept. He's genuinely running a farm after the first season. I think when he first started the farming community. Like, what is he doing?

Who's this celebrity think he is trying to run a farm. But actually he's running a farm and he's highlighting to the mainstream the problems that farmers have. So he's.

He's raised the awareness of struggling farmers to the whole country. So like now they love him, they want him to keep going because it's highlighting the problems and maybe the government will step in and help them.

They're seeing this as a similar way to like encourage people to get interested in space. Part of this reminded me of Halo, the video game. The costume he was wearing, the space suit and the. The music as well had a very similar.

But anyone who plays at Hell Will Go.

Paul: 00:17:15

Yes, there was. There's lots of different vibes in the music. There was bits with songs, there was bits with scores. Very atmospheric and even the score was kind of.

It jumped from being quite. Being quite bouncy and sort of cute to being very dark and dramatic and theatrical and orchestra.

Marc: 00:17:30

So it was. There was a theme of isolation in this movie as well. He felt isolated on Earth with no one listening to in his papers to.

Then he's like realize he's on his own. Completely on his own. So that was. That was a con until he meets Rocky. That kind of shifts to working together.

Paul: 00:17:44

I like your point on that where you'd just be petty and be like, no, no, you didn't like my paper,.

Darren: 00:17:48

So I hope I wouldn't. But it would take. I'd need a therapist and I'd want a cameo in like the next Marvel movie.

Marc: 00:17:57

Of course that's a reasonable request.

Paul: 00:17:58

That's fair. We'll film it tomorrow. You go into space the day after.

Marc: 00:18:01

Okay, thank you, gentlemen. That takes us nicely on to Paul's fantastic Facts of the Day.

Paul: 00:18:08

Facts of the day. So there's not masses of them because obviously I've got a few new film. But let's see if we've got between us a few.

Marc: 00:18:15

Yeah, yeah.

Paul: 00:18:16

So Ryan's daughters Esmeralda and Amada occasionally spoke for his alien co star Rocky, voiced in the film by James Ortiz through his earpiece on set. Speaking of their help, Gosling said there are some moments in the movie where I'm laughing or I'm just charmed by Rocky, which is like.

It's actually his kids talking to him and helping him out.

Marc: 00:18:36

That's what he hears.

Paul: 00:18:37

So he's hearing his kids saying stuff. Some. Some of them reactions probably natural to be just like him talking to his kids.

Marc: 00:18:42

Which is nice the first time he heard fist my bump. He was probably laughing.

Paul: 00:18:47

Yeah, that was a good line. You kept saying it after we. Yeah, Mark kept wanting us to fist his bump. What's going on there?

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Marc: 00:19:01

I heard that. Yes. I found out him in mind.

Paul: 00:19:03

One of the credits for rejected Rocky voice is Ray Porter, the narrator of the English language version of the project Hail Mary audiobook.

So when he's going through them, which I thought was pretty funny, when he got to Meryl Streep and Meryl Streep, he was like, she could really do anything. But yeah, one of the voices was actually the.

Darren: 00:19:22

Apparently the audiobook is phenomenal. Whenever I spoke to about this movie, everyone said audiobooks amazing. Which is a weird thing to say. Usually people say the book is amazing,.

Marc: 00:19:31

But the audiobook I suppose done in the right way. You can add a lot with audio and you can't do on just reading words because it's just down to you.

Whereas you can add sounds and inflection in how you speak.

Darren: 00:19:40

What I found, again, I listen to audio books a lot, but if you get a good voice actor or someone reading it accents.

Marc: 00:19:48

And have you heard about Stephen King? No, my first one, he did. He read it himself. Everyone was like, God, no. Oh, my God. And they got like an actor in play. That's better.

He can write but he can't speak.

Paul: 00:20:00

to Metro golden mare in early: 2020

No, he didn't say that because during wardrobe tests his daughter passed by and mentioned he looked smart with glasses. So it was his daughter that got him my weather glasses. I think your idea is better that he had to wear the glasses. So he doesn't.

He's in disguise and all the way.

Marc: 00:20:27

He put his glasses on when he was doing something nerdy.

Darren: 00:20:29

Yeah, that's it. It's like Denise Richardson in that James Bond movie when she's the scientist.

Marc: 00:20:33

Put glasses on, tie your hair up. And then when you go. When you finished. Glasses off, hair down. Yeah, whipping your hair around.

Paul: 00:20:38

This is the actress Sandra Houla's first American film. I think she's from Germany. That's the one who plays the boss.

Darren: 00:20:44

She is phenomenal in this movie. And allegedly everyone, everyone seems to be saying it was perfect cast compared to the book.

Paul: 00:20:50

Oh, that's good. Yeah, I've heard that on quite often.

Marc: 00:20:52

That's a sticking point of getting the right people to play the characters as they were meant. Those were written, rather than portray them the same on the screen.

Darren: 00:20:59

Well, the author says he was too heavily involved with this. With the Martian. They gave him the cash and told him to piss off, basically. Not in a bad way, but it was like, here's your cash. Go to count it.

And with this, he was involved with casting and stuff like that.

Paul: 00:21:11

Oh, that's always good, because I've heard in the reviews I watched after we'd seen it, the. It was fairly spot on to the book as well.

Marc: 00:21:18

Helms his involvement, I suppose that's what.

Paul: 00:21:20

You're saying, isn't it? So Rocky's computerized voice, as I said, was voiced by James Ortiz, but he was also the lead puppeteer as well, which I'm guessing made it easier.

Marc: 00:21:30

He was on when they did the press tour with. He was. He was. He was there. He was the guy behind. Because I could recognize the voice.

Paul: 00:21:35

Right.

Marc: 00:21:36

He was. He goes. He was doing it with him. Because it wouldn't be the same without the voice, would it?

Paul: 00:21:40

No, no. That's what makes it, isn't it? Grace's habit of hanging his glasses off, his ears, blow his chin was something Ryan Gosling came up with.

It wasn't until several. Several weeks into filmings that he found out people wear glasses don't actually do this, but by then, they shoot.

They'd shot too many of his scenes of him doing it to cut out this quirk.

Marc: 00:21:55

I thought that. But it's kind of something unique. It's just like. It's fine. It's kind of a quirk. It's a quirk.

Paul: 00:22:00

Yeah. Character quirk. Ryan Gosling's character jokingly taps on glass mimicking Alien and hums along the famous synth keyboards from Close Encounters.

I caught that one. This became the first ever film to premiere in the stratosphere, and a bespoke IMAX display was sent into space that played footage from the film.

The name of the main character is Ryland Grace, and the name of the ship is the Hail Mary. So it is Hail Mary, full of grace. This is what you said.

Darren: 00:22:29

All right. Yeah.

Paul: 00:22:30

Jump street in: 2014

Darren: 00:22:43

Yeah, it must be. Yeah.

Paul: 00:22:44

Film. Because. Because I think Lego Movie was in between there. So Solo Star Wars Story was actually these guys directing it.

They got quite a way through filming the thing, almost like three quarters, if not more.

And Kathleen Kennedy stepped in and didn't like what they were doing and basically threw them off the project, fired them, brought in Ron Howard, and then Ron Howard had to reshoot a lot of that M.O. Well, most of the movie, and it was completely different. So we never ever saw any of Phil Lord and Christopher Miller's version of Solo.

Marc: 00:23:13

I wonder if she's right or wrong. I wonder if we saw the original.

Paul: 00:23:15

Never know.

Marc: 00:23:17

Because you get an idea from three quarters of their version.

Paul: 00:23:19

Right. I'm sure it was quite a lot filmed. I'm guessing that. I'm not reading it.

Marc: 00:23:23

I'm guessing that because this, that movie has been out, it's been reviewed, it's made its money, there'd be no harm in throwing the other one out now.

Paul: 00:23:31

Incomplete cut. Yeah. Kathleen Kennedy's left Lucasfilm.

Marc: 00:23:34

Yeah.

Paul: 00:23:34

Who knows? Who knows? Now this grace names Rocky's mate Adrian after Adrian Balboa from five of the six Rocky movies by Sylvester Stallone and Talia Shire.

And I got a call out Mark on this one. He turned to me at one point because he knew this was coming.

Marc: 00:23:50

I didn't know it was coming.

Paul: 00:23:50

Did you know?

Marc: 00:23:51

I just predicted it.

Paul: 00:23:51

Yeah, he predicted it. He said, adrian, it's got to be. It's got to be Adrian. And it was.

cher following half Nelson in: 2006

Darren: 00:24:03

Yeah. Drug addicted teacher.

Paul: 00:24:04

ronaut following first man in: 2018

Darren: 00:24:09

Apparently he's very good in.

Marc: 00:24:11

I'd never heard of that.

Darren: 00:24:12

He plays Neil Armstrong and he's going.

Paul: 00:24:14

To be in Star Wars. Starfighter, I think it's called. So he's going to be in another.

Marc: 00:24:19

Space getting to be sci fi.

Paul: 00:24:20

Right. So it's next year, I think he has this. And Ryan Gosling has the same initials as the character he plays.

And the final one, which kind of wraps right around to the religious thing. So the film's title is actually a reference to the Hail Mary pass in American football.

A last ditch desperate effort to score with slim chances of success.

Marc: 00:24:37

It'll be interesting to see where that came from.

Paul: 00:24:39

Yes.

Marc: 00:24:39

Yeah, go back.

Paul: 00:24:40

Have you got any more?

Marc: 00:24:41

Just a couple. It was a huge budget. 200 Million for this. This is a proper cinematic event.

Paul: 00:24:46

Yeah, it's doing pretty well.

Marc: 00:24:47

So Ryan Gosling was also a producer on the film. The directors took inspiration from Alien and also had in depth discussion with people involved in past space journeys. I think some of the.

I saw a bit of a clip where some of the paneling in the ship was kind of similar to what they had on Alien. They've just put a bit of a futuristic edge to it.

They used some of the spaceship designs to make it because obviously that's people's references, things that have gone in the past. So they can kind of do that.

Paul: 00:25:10

There was definitely one window that looked a bit Star Wars TIE Fighter as well. The one that when he first wakes up and looks out of. That's very TIE Fighter.

Marc: 00:25:17

The story was picked up for adaptation very quickly due to the huge success of the book and its strong scientific foundation. A lot of science in the film is grounded in real world theory with only a few speculative elements added for storytelling. The book is now.

And now the film have been praised for making complex science as well. So before complex science feel accessible and engaging to a mainstream audience. Darren's looking puzzled. Do you not agree with that?

Darren: 00:25:38

No, that's fine. I also heard it's one of the most successful non original films that is in a franchise or a sequel, whatever.

And I think it was closing in on Oppenheimer to breaking records.

Paul: 00:25:50

Okay, I've got one more mark.

Marc: 00:25:52

Go for it.

Paul: 00:25:52

Which I saw in a headline today. Ryan Gosling spent 100 days filming alone. He got so lonely, he asked the crew to build him a friend. They made him a mop and she made the final cut.

So. So there's a mop in it dressed in glasses and a dress. And they named her Moppy Ringwald. And apparently she made the final cut.

I vaguely remember having a mop in the film.

Marc: 00:26:14

Yeah. Did he not pick up a mop and dance with it at some point?

Paul: 00:26:18

So that was Moppy Ringworld. Someone who you filmed with. I just thought it was random enough to throw in his effect.

Darren: 00:26:23

I don't know why that makes me really angry.

Paul: 00:26:26

Because of the moppy Ringworld thing.

Darren: 00:26:28

Felt lonely on set surrounded by like.

Marc: 00:26:31

No, I think it was he not. He was trying to get used to being lonely for. For method acting kind of thing.

Darren: 00:26:36

All right.

Paul: 00:26:37

Because he's probably being sarcastic.

Marc: 00:26:39

The best way to act lonely is to actually feel lonely. I suppose. Yeah. Because maybe because like you said, he's such a popular, confident guy. Just know what it feels like to be lonely.

Darren: 00:26:46

His imagination.

Marc: 00:26:49

Method acting. Method acting. Okay, thank you, Paul. Let's move on to hate it or rate it. This wasn't anyone's choice, so I'm probably gonna Go to you, Paul first.

Paul: 00:26:59

Oh, pressure. Okay. I think this is the most fun I've had at the cinema for a while. I enjoyed the spectacle of it.

I haven't seen a Ryan Gosling film where I haven't liked him in, to be honest. I always find him incredibly likable and watchable. I think he nailed it in this one.

He kind of had that great balance of the emotional stuff and the funny stuff and the banter and the deadpan humor where it was needed. But I like the effects. I enjoyed the cute relationship with the Rocky alien.

This is the bit I'm dying to know if that irritated Darren or he liked it. But I personally.

Marc: 00:27:28

Darren's going last on this one.

Paul: 00:27:29

I went along for the ride on that, so I really enjoyed it. I can see why people are enjoying it. I haven't read the book, so I don't have that. But people seem to say it's been done faithfully to the book.

That gets.

Marc: 00:27:39

That's a big thing, isn't it? Yeah.

Paul: 00:27:41

That's a big thumbs up to manage to get book fans to. Because normally book fans lower. It's not as good. You know, they might still say it's good, but it's still not as good as a book.

Marc: 00:27:48

I think a part of that will be making it longer to not have to cut stuff out for. For time wise.

Paul: 00:27:53

Yeah, potentially. And I thought about this. It is a bit long, but you don't get the nuances if you start cutting it down, probably.

So there's a lot of time he spends with Rocky and getting to know him and learning the language and all that. And I can imagine some people like, come on, like, get to the point. But actually a lot of that nuances, why you then care about the characters.

And when Rocky's just looking like he's on his last legs and things. That's why you probably care about him because you've watched this develop. So I like that. Like you said, the boss in it, she's really good.

In fact, everyone plays the part really good. I really like the security guard, Carl.

Marc: 00:28:26

Yeah.

Paul: 00:28:26

Who's sort of this serious security guard.

Marc: 00:28:29

He breaks him down eventually, isn't he?

Paul: 00:28:30

And he breaks him down quite quick and then he becomes like his science buddy. And I thought that whole bit was really.

Marc: 00:28:35

Do we have an expense account? No, no, but I do. Yeah.

Paul: 00:28:39

And. And there's daft scenes where the pissing about in a giant B and Q basically and playing with all the stuff.

And I thought that was quite charming and fun. So it depends if you like your sci fi a bit kooky. I do. I really enjoyed it. Oh.

I can't decide whether to give it somewhere in the sevens or actually bump it to an eight. It is the most fun I've had on a modern film for a long time because they never seem to hit quite the right beats.

This one felt like it did give it an 8 and 8.

Marc: 00:29:08

Okay.

Paul: 00:29:08

I enjoyed it. I think Gosling did a great job. Great job from the directors. Lots of balance of humor and heart.

Marc: 00:29:14

Cool. I really also really enjoy this movie. I had a good time, laughed a lot last time. Movie I laughed that much at. And I wasn't. I wasn't expecting it.

I didn't know anything. I didn't know how serious this was going to be or.

Paul: 00:29:26

No, I didn't myself. I knew that I've a bit of deadpan and tumor in there, but there was.

Marc: 00:29:29

All through the. All through it at the different phases of the movie, past and present. There was. There was laughs.

But part of it, I thought the relationship with the alien and the communication, the language was a bit too implausible. Implausible to, you know, a completely alien life form to be. We know, within. Within a few scenes.

Paul: 00:29:46

Magic of the movies, Mark.

Marc: 00:29:47

I know. I just. Because parts of this movie very grounded and real and feel very realistic, whereas that just kind of seemed a bit more. It just kind of.

It was a bit of a. Too much of a contrast for me. We've seen a lot more work.

To be able to work with another human or another race life form to be able to figure this out, it just seemed a bit too. Too easy, too Hollywood. Okay, what else was there? Yeah, the end where he had the choice to go back and save Rocky or go home and save Earth.

I just thought that was probably a step too far. I don't know. Because he had no. I had. He had no way of knowing. Like, how was he gonna find him? How's he gonna get there? How's he gonna.

There's no guarantee it would work. And then if that didn't work, both planets would die. And then the scene at the end where he's teaching their kids. I just. I don't know.

I found it a bit cheesy. A bit. I was like, oh, I'm not sure about that. I thought it should have ended before that.

Paul: 00:30:31

That did push the boundaries slightly, didn't it?

Marc: 00:30:34

I was with it all the way until that. When he. When he was on his way home and he found they had a leak, which means he'd Have a leak. Rocky would have a leak. Do I go?

Do I carry on, Save my planet? I'll go back. Even though there's no guarantee it's gonna work out. I was kind of like I had no issue with that film until that.

Until then I was, I was fine. But I did really enjoy it and I haven't had that much fun at the cinema in years. And I really laughed at it and I really enjoyed that.

I like the story of it and I like that that's come from a novel as well. So I'm gonna say I'm gonna give it an 8.

Paul: 00:31:02

Cool.

Marc: 00:31:03

Probably would have give it more if it wasn't for the end.

Paul: 00:31:05

Just kind of just taking the shine up.

Marc: 00:31:06

Just kind of walked the whole thing down a little bit for me.

Paul: 00:31:08

So this is the bit where I really need to know what Mr. Darren Horn section thinks. Because I was like, he's gonna find this adorable or hate it potentially.

Marc: 00:31:16

Okay, so Paul's given it an A. I've got an eight. Darren, over to you.

Darren: 00:31:21

So loads of people love this movie and one of my favorite critics, Mark Commode loves it. And he said that messaged and said she actually skipped out of the cinema. She was so happy. And Mark said that he agreed.

And the people I know who have read the book say that they really enjoyed it. And people listen to the audiobook say that they really enjoyed it. And I don't know what fucking movie you saw because I did not enjoy it.

I was bored very, very quickly and I just couldn't find anything to latch onto. I thought he was annoying. I didn't really believe that he would be that lonely. I didn't charm me at all. The visual effects were amazing and.

And it just felt. Every step just felt like not very well explained and it was just weird.

Oh, there's his astrophysics that's all suddenly sucking the heat out of every sun. I'm like a sun. So you're going to go to another sun and somehow scoop out aliens from it. How the fuck are you doing that? And they live on the sun.

They're going to live in other places. They're going to live in a jar on your ship. Like that's not how stuff works.

And you then I don't mind, you know, the element, that element of like, you know, suspend disbelief, spend disbelief. But you know, I can't but believe that Ryan Gosling is a hot in any world. And I can't believe that children in a school act that well behaved Anyway.

Marc: 00:32:51

You have first hand experience of this.

Darren: 00:32:52

Yeah. It's like, right, they were going to need social media addiction or boredom or.

Paul: 00:32:57

I love this.

Marc: 00:32:59

Problems.

Darren: 00:32:59

Yeah.

Paul: 00:32:59

It's like I did not find the film realistic. What was it, the science or the space? No, no, it was the classroom scene.

Darren: 00:33:04

Well behaved pupils out of order.

Marc: 00:33:06

Yeah.

Darren: 00:33:06

Both on this planet and the alien planet. It's like, no, doesn't work. And I felt bad. Like, I kept looking around the cinema being like, why am I not getting this? Like, I just. I don't get it.

And then it just got more annoying. And then it was just following the good bits were like, following the plot of the Martian too much. And so I was just like, no.

And I get that his journey is to decide that the human. He doesn't learn that the human race is worth sacrificing him for itself for. He learns that Rocky is worth it.

And then like, you're saying it's all just a bit. What, they're gonna have food that humans can eat on this alien planet?

Marc: 00:33:43

Please.

Darren: 00:33:44

I know. They just.

Paul: 00:33:45

Well, they could create stuff.

Darren: 00:33:47

Yeah. They could create a biodome for him, apparently.

Paul: 00:33:49

And.

Darren: 00:33:50

Yeah, and then you're right. Well, he doesn't want to go home. He doesn't know that the probes have made it home. He doesn't know anything. It's like, get your ass back there.

And also, if you make it, you will become a God and you can get statues. You can also sue her.

Marc: 00:34:08

Sued.

Darren: 00:34:09

Yeah, like, you guys kidnapped me. You drugged and kidnapped me and sent me on a suicide mission. So where's my money? Yeah, I just also, how lucky was.

Marc: 00:34:17

It that their planet's got water and atmosphere and everything a human needs?

Darren: 00:34:20

They created a biodome.

Marc: 00:34:22

It was okay.

Darren: 00:34:23

Yeah.

Paul: 00:34:23

Because they created, like, a beach for him, of course.

Darren: 00:34:25

But it wasn't very well explained because I got confused about that. And he was, oh, you know, you made it really hot. And now it's just a bit cold. I'm like, why, yes.

Marc: 00:34:32

Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

Darren: 00:34:33

And the whole, like, you know, I like cute aliens. I think Dark Star has a beachborn. I think that's kind of a cute vibe. I do on the whole, like, robots.

There's some great robots in, like, Mandalorian and Rogue One that I think are really charming. I just didn't think this was that charming. And I didn't understand the language. If he's telling the computer, oh, that noise means amazing.

Why is he saying amaze just right. Amazing in the computer. Why?

Marc: 00:34:55

Where's the quirks coming from?

Darren: 00:34:57

Yeah, like, why? Why Is he saying, like, what?

Marc: 00:35:00

Yeah, because, like, some of the words he would say. It's this word. He type it and he would say it perfectly.

Darren: 00:35:04

So he must have typed in fist. My bump.

Marc: 00:35:07

Yeah, yeah. Now, you know, they mention it.

Darren: 00:35:08

Yeah, yeah. No, I get it, like, sometimes.

Paul: 00:35:11

But surely that's cute because some of the people we were with were going, oh.

Darren: 00:35:16

And I didn't. I mean, I smiled occasionally. I laughed.

Marc: 00:35:18

No, no, no, no, no. Stop you right there. Stop you right there.

Paul: 00:35:22

Yeah, tell him.

Marc: 00:35:23

There was a moment fairly early on. You laughed out loud.

Darren: 00:35:26

Yes.

Marc: 00:35:26

Me and Paul, we, like, looked at you. Like looking at you, pointing at you, going.

Darren: 00:35:30

He laughed. I know.

Paul: 00:35:31

We were thinking, this is gonna be a success.

Darren: 00:35:33

No, I laughed because of the woman, which I think might have been flicks. Kept laughing really loudly. Like, she would laugh loud and then I would laugh at her laughing.

Marc: 00:35:45

Oh, so disappointed now. I thought you looked at the film.

Paul: 00:35:47

That's. That's just broken all of our dreams.

Darren: 00:35:49

I know. I don't know what's wrong with me. Like, I look in the mirror and be like, why can't you be happy? But I loved watching, like, Terminator and stuff.

And this is coming off of Velociraptor, so.

Paul: 00:35:58

Sure. You enjoyed it more than Velociraptor?

Darren: 00:36:01

Well, yeah. You know, it was in focus, good camera work and the acting was good. So. I don't know, like, I love the Martian. I'd probably.

If I watch the Martian again, I think I'd give that really, really high marks. Didn't land. I think part of me was thinking this should have been a TV show. I think it. I think it needed more time, could.

Marc: 00:36:20

Have been fleshed out more and two. And that's probably the relationship between the two races.

Darren: 00:36:24

Yeah.

Marc: 00:36:24

Like, completely different communications. Way of everything. Would take a long time to.

Paul: 00:36:28

Yeah.

Marc: 00:36:29

Get to the point where you could solve some. A problem of that high important.

Darren: 00:36:32

Two and a half hours was too long for what I didn't try.

Marc: 00:36:35

I didn't think it was too long. Apart from. Yeah, apart from by the time we got to the end. But I didn't check for time once in that film. Not once.

Darren: 00:36:41

Right.

Marc: 00:36:41

But yeah, you're right. Looking back over it, it could have done without the whole end, but it was. That made it a bit cheesy for me.

Paul: 00:36:46

Yeah.

Darren: 00:36:47

Or break it into three movies, you.

Marc: 00:36:49

Know, and, you know, like a miniseries. Yeah. Three parts. Yeah.

Darren: 00:36:53

Something. I don't know. I love if you went to the cinema to see it. I love it. If you had a wonderful Time. It's great. I didn't.

Marc: 00:36:59

This is your opinion. This is. This section is all just your opinion, that's all.

Paul: 00:37:02

Did you enjoy more than Minecraft, the movie?

Darren: 00:37:04

Oh God, Minecraft was shit.

Paul: 00:37:06

I'm just trying to get a sense of in how much you didn't enjoy.

Darren: 00:37:09

I reckon it's probably 3.5.

Marc: 00:37:11

Okay.

Darren: 00:37:11

I liked Fall Guy more.

Paul: 00:37:13

That was a fun film.

Darren: 00:37:14

Yeah, it was, right?

Paul: 00:37:15

Yeah, yeah. Daft as anything, but very fun to watch.

Darren: 00:37:18

Like full Guy. I'd probably give like 6.5. Like I laughed quite a lot of that. But Ryan Gosling's very in danger of becoming the same guy in everything.

Like he's in Blade Runner. He's basically the same as this guy. And Fall Guy, he was kind of the same. Ken Barbie was kind of.

Paul: 00:37:32

Hugh Grant made a lot of money being.

Darren: 00:37:33

Oh yeah, yeah, I know. But then he stopped and inside being in like the Gentleman and stuff. I think the only. The main movie we've agreed on is Velociraptor, isn't it?

Marc: 00:37:41

Yeah.

Darren: 00:37:42

And Terminator.

Marc: 00:37:43

That gives it 19.5, which puts it in 31st out of 63.

Paul: 00:37:48

Somewhere in the middle, though.

Marc: 00:37:49

Yeah, pretty much. It is just above Falling down and A Man for All Seasons and it's just below Elf and Palm Springs.

Darren: 00:37:56

Okay.

Marc: 00:37:56

Just in the top half. That's a lot of movies.

Paul: 00:37:59

It's that thing, isn't it? We need all three of us to get it into that top 10.

Marc: 00:38:03

Yeah, yeah. Like two of us love that movie. One of us not so much.

Paul: 00:38:08

Yeah.

Marc: 00:38:08

So there's where it lands. That's what we thought. But we'd love to know what your thoughts were. So send your opinions in, we'll read them out on the show. Okay.

So we're gonna recommend the next episode in our back catalog you listen to would either be a bit of a contrast Alien, a more serious of sci fi horror film, or Castaway, which a bit more both of the isolation feel to it. So you go. Go back catalog. We have a huge back catalog.

Paul: 00:38:32

Is that how old we are now? Yeah, Wowzers.

Marc: 00:38:34

Over over a year. So, yeah, that's what we think. Thank you, gentlemen. That takes us nicely into part three, which is the listener lounge.

So in the listen lounge we have the lobby where we have your questions, your stories and your comments. Then we ask our question of the week and we finish off by revealing next week's movie. Let's have a quick recap on the cinema social.

Well, did we enjoy it? Yeah, it was nice to have social anxiety hanging there.

Darren: 00:38:58

Yeah. I had extreme social anxiety. Yes.

Marc: 00:39:01

But. Well, it was a good bunch, though.

Darren: 00:39:03

I thought it was lovely and really friendly.

Marc: 00:39:05

It was good. I saw you both cracking away with various different people who you didn't really know that well, which is a good sign.

Paul: 00:39:10

We had all the robs.

Marc: 00:39:11

There was three robs.

Paul: 00:39:12

Three robs?

Marc: 00:39:13

Yeah, Each other, Rob. Three people go, yes, yes. That was great. Everyone seemed to have a good time.

It was nice to go for drinks with people, have a chat and have a bit of food at our local Wetherspoons. And we were there for about an hour and a quarter.

Paul: 00:39:24

Was it something like that?

Marc: 00:39:25

Yeah. People were ordering from the table, food was arriving, drinks were arriving. Lots of. Lots of laughs.

Paul: 00:39:30

Had a nice pizza.

Marc: 00:39:31

Yeah. Food was good. It was very good. Anything to note from that? Anyone talk about 21? Any specifically about anything of note?

Paul: 00:39:37

It was just nice to hear people appreciating the podcast.

Marc: 00:39:40

Yeah. Some people are genuine fans of the.

Paul: 00:39:42

Podcast and I did say. I was like, it's nice to know because he was like, oh, my God, you're the voice.

I'm like, I know, but we all sit in a room every week and talk about movies. It's nice that it's going out.

Marc: 00:39:53

It was things like, I feel like I know you, but I don't know you. Yeah, I know you're going to get that. If people listen to a lot of episodes, they do get to. Because we do give away personal bits and pieces as well.

And your personality in your life.

Darren: 00:40:04

They had feedback that they like. That particular. When we're kind of talking about this shit we've been through, they found that very relatable.

Marc: 00:40:11

Yes.

Paul: 00:40:11

And some of them were like, yeah, we want to hear more about you. And I'm like, no, let's have less of that. Let's keep the mystery.

Marc: 00:40:18

I'll force more out of Paul.

Paul: 00:40:19

Tom Worry, interrogate me.

Marc: 00:40:21

And a big thanks to the Alhambra for letting us host it there, gradually bringing more and more people with us. So we'll see a bump on their takings whenever we have a cinema social, which is good.

Paul: 00:40:30

They're always gracious hosts, aren't they? Look after us nicely.

Marc: 00:40:33

They booked out the back two rows for us. That was perfect. Really nice.

Darren: 00:40:36

So we can make out.

Marc: 00:40:38

Not yet. That's only the first date. Yeah. So I thought it was really good. Yeah.

One of the highlights for me was Darren laughing out loud, but turns out it wasn't for the movie.

Darren: 00:40:46

No, nothing to do with the movie.

Paul: 00:40:48

Brilliant.

Marc: 00:40:48

So it was the flicks.

Paul: 00:40:49

Yeah.

Marc: 00:40:50

Two flicks. There was two flicks and three flicks and three rods. Good name. Good name.

Darren: 00:40:54

Yeah.

Marc: 00:40:55

So, yeah, really enjoyed it. Everyone seemed to have a good time.

Paul: 00:40:58

And thanks to everyone for coming.

Marc: 00:40:59

Yeah. And we'll. I don't know when the next one is. I think I can't wait what month it is.

But we may, if there's a good movie coming out, one of us might just, as our choice might just choose a movie that's in the cinema.

Paul: 00:41:08

Oh, can we do that?

Marc: 00:41:09

Yeah, we can do that. Oh, I think you chose Wicked.

Paul: 00:41:11

That was your choice because I said let's do a modern one.

Marc: 00:41:14

So there you go. We can, we can do that. If you, if one of your choices wants to be a movie that's out and out sooner, that's fine.

Paul: 00:41:19

Can we talk the Alhambra to putting in Hot Shots part? Duh. So we can take Darren and watch out. Yeah.

Marc: 00:41:24

Well, we won't get him to arrive,.

Paul: 00:41:26

But it's like, oh, he couldn't make it.

Marc: 00:41:29

Damn.

Darren: 00:41:30

Yeah, I would. Yeah, I'd have an allergy allergic reaction. I'd go to Hospital with EpiPens.

Paul: 00:41:35

Oh, wow. Okay.

Marc: 00:41:36

Oh, no.

Darren: 00:41:37

However did I eat this? I didn't realize I was going to have an allergic reaction.

I'm going to be in agony for three hours and I will take that over the hot shots parked here.

Marc: 00:41:47

So also, especially a big thanks to Matt Bainbridge. He was there, he took the photos for us and he was a gracious host and all the staff there. It was good.

We all bought drinks and sweets and had a good time. So look forward to the next one. What else? So had more replies to our suggestion about bonus episodes that we could do.

Jack Davies has said a deep dive into a character or a franchise like Batman or X Men. Now, I've privately suggested to you James Bond, even though you're not particularly fans, but.

Paul: 00:42:11

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Marc: 00:42:12

Oh, you are a fan.

Paul: 00:42:13

You're not particular fans.

Marc: 00:42:15

I am. I just haven't seen many. I quite like James Bond. I've just not seen many.

Paul: 00:42:18

I'm a big Bond fan.

Marc: 00:42:19

Okay.

Paul: 00:42:20

And my argument was I don't want to sit there arguing the point for Bond while you two destroy it for an hour.

Marc: 00:42:26

No, no, this is not more. This is more of just. I'm fascinated by the franchise and the character. The evolution of the character through times and time and how it develops.

Does it reflect like to the different Bonds reflects difference in society and culture.

Paul: 00:42:38

Yeah, it definitely could be interesting. I love the Bond films, so I'm down with that.

Marc: 00:42:43

Erin Tolson said a listener question special. We could probably definitely do that. That would definitely. That would work. And Dean Fisher says, guess the movie from the nutshell.

Paul: 00:42:50

Oh, yeah. Like a little quiz. Quiz episode. That could work.

Marc: 00:42:53

Yeah. Thanks, guys. Thanks for that. That takes us on to the question of the week. Darren's. Darren's chosen this one. What is your favorite movie? Alien.

Good or bad? Let us know and we'll read them out next time. Or whenever we get enough replies, we'll read them out.

That takes us on to the main event, next week's movie.

Paul: 00:43:09

Who is it? Oh, you.

Marc: 00:43:11

or Star Wars. Oh, a new hope.: 1977

Paul: 00:43:19

Number one, as it was called Star wars. As it's now called Episode four, New Hope, the original number one.

Marc: 00:43:26

We'll argue that next time.

Paul: 00:43:27

Yeah, yeah. That's a whole, whole thing.

Marc: 00:43:29

So if you haven't seen Star Wars, A New Hope will reveal things you may have missed, details you didn't notice. And Paul will have some fantastic facts today.

Paul: 00:43:36

There's about a million of them. Yeah, there's like four hours worth of facts, but I'll. I'll find you the best ones. Obviously.

Marc: 00:43:41

I'm sure most people have seen this, but if you haven't seen it, we will also do our usual. We'll give you everything you need to know to decide if it's your kind of movie without spoilers.

Paul: 00:43:48

Oh, that's gonna be tricky when you've seen it. It is gonna be tricky many times as we've seen.

Marc: 00:43:52

We're professionals. We're professionals. We can do this. Okay, that brings us to the end of the show. Thanks for listening, guys.

We really do appreciate you taking time out of your busy lives, so spend it with us. If you enjoy this episode, please share it with a fellow movie fan. It genuinely helps us.

It's the only way we're going to keep this going is if people spread the word. We really do need your help. Okay, that's it. This episode is officially over. This is Mark saying goodbye and Darren.

Darren: 00:44:11

Saying goodbye for now.

Paul: 00:44:12

Rocky. Hate Mark.

Darren: 00:44:14

Yeah.