The Devil Wears Prada - In A Nutshell
Is The Devil Wears Prada really just about fashion?
In this episode of Movies In A Nutshell, we give you everything you need to decide whether this iconic film belongs on your watchlist and all without spoilers. Then we unbox it to reveal the things you have missed even if you've seen it many times.
This episode might make you look at the movie very differently.
In this episode:
🎬 The Devil Wears Prada (2006)
Darren’s Pick
PART 1 – The Nutshell – If you haven’t seen it
A spoiler-free breakdown of a workplace drama often dismissed as a fashion film — but one that has remained culturally relevant for nearly two decades.
An exploration of the film’s tone, structure and character journey — focusing on ambition, power, identity, pressure and personal change within a high-demand professional world.
A look at how the story is framed through an outsider’s perspective, why its themes resonate far beyond the fashion industry, and how its ideas connect with other “cost of greatness” films.
By the end of Part 1, you’ll know whether this blend of sharp dialogue, character-driven storytelling and workplace drama belongs on your watchlist.
PART 2 – The Unboxing – If you’ve seen it
What Did You Miss?
The details beneath the surface — from shifting power dynamics and mentor figures to subtle visual cues that chart the protagonist’s transformation.
Moments that land very differently on rewatch, how relationships evolve under pressure, and why the film’s ending is often misunderstood.
A closer look at how ambition is framed, how success is defined, and what the film suggests about personal growth versus personal cost.
Paul’s Facts of the Day
A standout set of facts and trivia, including:
- Record-breaking costume budgets and award recognition
- Casting choices and character decisions that shaped the film
- Behind-the-scenes production stories and on-set dynamics
- Real-world inspirations behind key characters
- Why the film continues to influence pop culture years later
Hate It or Rate It?
Marc, Darren & Paul submit their scores — and The Devil Wears Prada takes its place in the Legend League.
PART 3 – Listener Lounge
Your questions, your comments and your shout-outs — plus a Question of the Week inspired by the film’s themes of ambition, identity and success.
And of course… the reveal of next week’s movie.
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Transcript
And I'm like a broken mentor, you know, broke, in debt, single, divorced, no pension, no plan for my life.
Speaker A:Like clinging to this podcast to save you.
Speaker A:But I'll give people advice all day long.
Speaker B:Hello and welcome to Movies in a Nutshell.
Speaker A:With me, Marc Farquhar, myself, Darren Horn.
Speaker B:And I, Paul Day, we help you spend less time browsing and more time watching.
Speaker A:If you've seen the movie, we'll reveal what you might have missed.
Speaker C:If you haven't, we'll give you a quick spoiler free breakdown.
Speaker B:We've got behind the scenes trivia, including.
Speaker C:Paul's fact of the day, host ratings.
Speaker A:And our legend league table, plus your.
Speaker C:Chance to choose a movie.
Speaker B:So grab some popcorn and let's jump into this week's movie.
Speaker B:Okay, here we are.
Speaker B: Devil wears Prada: Speaker B:And we are in the nutshell, part one, where we will break the movie down spoiler free to help you decide if the Devil Wears Prada is your kind of film.
Speaker B:So the nutshell, how do we break this down?
Speaker B:What's this movie really about?
Speaker B:Especially for someone who hasn't seen it?
Speaker C:I'm gonna say overall, it's about the business of fashion and the fashion world and kind of gives you a taste of what it might be like working in the fashion world.
Speaker B:I think people know it's a pretty cutthroat.
Speaker B:It's a bit like, like cheffing.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Real business.
Speaker B:Harsh cutthroat.
Speaker C:And on the surface you would maybe think it's the sort of world that, oh, it's about clothes and it's thing.
Speaker C:But actually this film shows you especially when you're.
Speaker B:If you want to get to the top, if you're talking like the higher end of the industry, it's very high pressure.
Speaker B:It's harsh.
Speaker C:It's a long way at the top.
Speaker C:If you want to rock and roll, that's the one is what they say.
Speaker C:And obviously we do this through the character of.
Speaker C:So the film stars and Hathaway, Meryl Streep.
Speaker C:And it doesn't give away too much, I don't think in the spoilers because it's probably evident from the poster that Meryl Streep's kind of your big boss at the top of the fashion industry.
Speaker C:And Anne Hathaway is going to be entry level.
Speaker C:Entry level intern going into that world and then we sort of see it through her eyes.
Speaker A:I don't think it's about fashion, though.
Speaker C:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:And I think in that world, Fashion.
Speaker A:I think world, yes.
Speaker A:In the Set.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it's like set in the world of fashion.
Speaker A:And I think if you know about fashion, there's a lot in this for you.
Speaker A:Because I. I'm sure there were points where the way it was shot, I was like, I think that person's famous.
Speaker A:I think that person is probably famous.
Speaker B:There was lots of things that would have happened in the movie that were probably true to the industry, but we wouldn't have a clue.
Speaker A:Totally.
Speaker A:It's really a kind of hero's journey where the mentor is also the dragon or the villain, but it's also about the cost of greatness.
Speaker A:So it's about the cost of greatness and then it's about when you're young, trying to find your way in the world and trying to find who you are.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:That's that work, life, balance is like, how driven are you?
Speaker B:Are you prepared to sacrifice.
Speaker B:Sacrifice your personal life for your career?
Speaker A:And you can.
Speaker A:And it's the same format as movies.
Speaker A:Say, like Wall street where Charlie.
Speaker A:Charlie Sheen is mentored by.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Gordon Gecko, which is Michael Douglas.
Speaker A:And he's the same kind of negative, kind of villainous kind of thing.
Speaker A:Whiplash is another really good example.
Speaker A:And that's about drumming, but it's not really about drumming.
Speaker A:It's about the cost of greatness.
Speaker C:So all these films are the same film.
Speaker C:Yeah, they're all about greatness.
Speaker C:And it's what you're going to sacrifice.
Speaker A:Like Sex in the City meets Whiplash or Swimming with Sharks.
Speaker A:That's probably a bit of an out.
Speaker B:I had Mean Girls meets Whiplash.
Speaker A:Yeah, there you go.
Speaker C:I didn't have any meats for this one.
Speaker C:So strangely.
Speaker A:And also it's one of those movies where I think we've talked about Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell's archetypes before.
Speaker A:And one, a key archetype is the innocent.
Speaker A:And you can craft entire stories and narratives where you take the innocent and then you send them on a journey of discovery.
Speaker A:And by doing that, you also.
Speaker A:They become a surrogate for the audience.
Speaker A:So Fallout is currently on tv.
Speaker A:Like second season's just being released.
Speaker A:That's a perfect example of the innocent.
Speaker A:Like she was, you know, born and grew up in a vault, and then she goes out into the real world to say, well, what's the real world like?
Speaker A:And Anne Hathaway is the same in this.
Speaker A:She's this innocent girl who's got a journalist.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, for like small town journalists.
Speaker A:I wrote a little thing for my school paper.
Speaker A:Did you?
Speaker A:Okay, that's sweet.
Speaker A:And then she's going to basically swim with sharks.
Speaker A:She's going out, but because she doesn't know anything about fashion.
Speaker A:And there's an.
Speaker A:Which is why it's not really kind of about fashion, because you.
Speaker A:She's going to teach you about it in a way, so you're just going to follow her.
Speaker A:And she's going, oh, I'm learning as I go.
Speaker C:You know, there's a TV show called Ugly Betty, which I haven't seen, but just from the trailers I've seen, I imagine that's a similar sort of setting.
Speaker C:Yeah, maybe.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I put down there's lots of West Wing walking.
Speaker C:So if you've seen the West Wing, where they like to walk and talk and talk, look and walk and talks.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's definitely about ambition, like the demands, what it costs, how easy to lose yourself while chasing success.
Speaker A:But it's also about not necessarily leveling up, but getting experiences and being changed by those experiences.
Speaker A:And the dangers of doing that with your partner doesn't grow at the same pace.
Speaker A:And your friendship group don't grow at the same pace.
Speaker A:And it's an absolute pet peeve of mine when people do something, let's say, go off to uni and then come back, or go and go join the military and then come back, and then the friendship group are like, oh, you've changed.
Speaker A:You have.
Speaker A:You're supposed to change.
Speaker A:What's the point of life?
Speaker B:You've evolved.
Speaker A:Go get experience and evolve.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We're basically depressed Pokemon at this stage.
Speaker C:That needs a T shirt right there.
Speaker C:That's a good quote.
Speaker B:I like that.
Speaker A:Yeah, we just.
Speaker A:We need to evolve, you know, so.
Speaker A:Yeah, and.
Speaker A:And we, you know, we see that in the movies, as we'll talk about.
Speaker C:And it's also interesting, obviously, just from an acting point of view, to see Meryl Streep, who played a character like.
Speaker C:I don't know, she plays lots of different characters.
Speaker A:Mamma Mia.
Speaker B:Mamma Mia.
Speaker C:Donner, I wrote down as such a bright character to see her as this kind of very ruthless boss who is sort of the title of the piece, the Devil, the Devil Wears Prada, which.
Speaker A:Also I think is harsh.
Speaker A:But I'll break that down in the next section.
Speaker C:There we go.
Speaker C:So it's about fashion, but it's not about fashion.
Speaker B:Yes, There you go.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:What I'm basically saying is you don't need to be interested in fashion to enjoy this movie.
Speaker A:In the same way you don't need to be interested in drumming to enjoy Whiplash.
Speaker A:You don't need to be interested in Water Street.
Speaker A:To enjoy Wall Street.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Or I would say interested in golf.
Speaker C:To enjoy Tinkup.
Speaker C:But that's a deep pick.
Speaker C:Carry on.
Speaker C:Yes, you can.
Speaker C:Have you not seen.
Speaker C:Have you seen Tinko?
Speaker A:I don't think I have.
Speaker B:No, I haven't seen it.
Speaker C:Okay, I'll throw it in.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:Okay, let's move on to part two, which is the unboxing.
Speaker B:So in part two, which we like to call the unboxing, spoiler territory ahead.
Speaker B:If you haven't seen the Devil Wears Prada and we've helped you decide you do want to go watch it, please go and do so now, because from this point forward, there will be spoilers.
Speaker B:So in part two, we have what did you miss?
Speaker B:Where we'll highlight things you may have missed, even if you've seen the movie many times.
Speaker B:Paul has his formidable facts of the day.
Speaker B:And then we round off part two with Hate it or Rate it, where we each give our brief opinion a score out of 10, and then we throw it to the Legend League, see where it lands.
Speaker B:So what did you miss?
Speaker B:I'm gonna go to Paul first for this one.
Speaker C:See, the stuff I think we missed is what Darren said in the non spoiler bit right there, which is good.
Speaker C:It is very much watching a character grow from when she goes into this world and she's quite naive about it all, doesn't understand the world, but then as she learns about it, there's almost a mutual respect for the character that becomes her.
Speaker C:What did you call it, Darren?
Speaker C:The mentor slash dragon.
Speaker C:Dragon baddie that she's up against.
Speaker C:Like, she learns because of the baddie and then maybe learns because we're in spoiler zone.
Speaker C:She learns it that in them last sort of scenes that I don't want to be this person.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:When Meryl Streep's character is very much like, you remind me of me.
Speaker C:And as if that's a good thing.
Speaker C:And she has that line about, well, who wouldn't want to be us?
Speaker C:And then Anne Hathaway's Andy character, sort of like, I don't want this.
Speaker B:Gets out of the car, walks away.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And you've watched this film where she's threw everything into this.
Speaker C:She's literally done everything she's asked of to the point I'm writing down they can all F off.
Speaker C:Don't like to swear on these things.
Speaker A:Because that was the tone of the podcast.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:I know you never do that.
Speaker C:But her friends are sort of like you say, they're not Getting on board with her and she's like, well, I'm working really hard.
Speaker C:The scene that really pissed me off was where she gives her friend the bag and her friend's like, oh, oh, the bag.
Speaker C:This is worth thousands and whatever.
Speaker C:And Andy's like, no, it's yours, you can have it.
Speaker C:And then in the next breath, they're like throwing her phone back and forth so she can't answer it.
Speaker C:I'm like, you, what's that all about?
Speaker C:So I got really annoyed at that.
Speaker C:So she realizes her own self worth through this bad character.
Speaker C:And I suppose that's a hero, heroine's hero's journey in this, isn't it?
Speaker C:Where coming across that sort of real friction is what then brings out the best in her.
Speaker C:But she realizes, I don't want to stay here, I want to go over there.
Speaker C:So I don't know if there's anything else beyond that.
Speaker C:Darren, you might know.
Speaker A:I mean, it's definitely interesting to break down that those that friendship group.
Speaker A:And there's a lot of people online kind of attacking the boyfriend for being toxic.
Speaker C:I saw this.
Speaker C:Yeah, there's like a whole wave of, is he really the bad guy of the piece?
Speaker C:Not.
Speaker A:And it feels like, yeah, as a friendship group, they are not that supportive.
Speaker A:But they've also.
Speaker A:They're selfishly.
Speaker A:They're losing their friend and they think that it's toxic because she's telling stories and oh my God, that's atrocious.
Speaker A:They can't treat you like that.
Speaker A:And she's like, this is the rules of the Matrix.
Speaker A:I live in.
Speaker A:Yes, I'm in this industry.
Speaker A:These are the rules for it.
Speaker A:In the same way that if you're in the military or in the film industry or whatever it is, there's rules of behavior and, and looking and work hours, for example.
Speaker A:So the fact that they're kind of pulling her down is problematic.
Speaker A:But we've all been dicks to our friends at some point.
Speaker C:I try not to be.
Speaker A:The boyfriend is more of an issue partly because he does that speech where he's like, you know, I'd prefer if you were dancing on a pole as a stripper, as long as you had integrity.
Speaker A:It's like, shut the fuck up.
Speaker A:Whereas in fact, he is inspired by her because by the end of the movie, he's got out of his job and gone for something that's got more career orientated.
Speaker A:And he's a chef.
Speaker A:Chef for hours are insane, aren't they?
Speaker B:Yeah, that's what we just say.
Speaker B:That's another Industry where it's like cutthroat.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:High pressure.
Speaker C:Not in this film though.
Speaker C:He's like, where have you been on my birthday?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's like, well, it wasn't her fault.
Speaker A:It's your birthday.
Speaker A:Here's a frickin grilled cheese sandwich I made.
Speaker A:How about you tidy up?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:How could he be so nasty?
Speaker C:And Hathaway.
Speaker A:But then it's so.
Speaker A:Yeah, you've got her as a dragon.
Speaker A:You've got Stanley Tookie as the mentor.
Speaker A:Yes, he's a really, really good guy.
Speaker C:But then I feel like this is one of my favorite roles of his.
Speaker C:He just plays it so well.
Speaker A:He is good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But it also reminds me of the hobbits in Lord of the Rings with this.
Speaker A:Because Anne Hathaway is Andy's character.
Speaker A:Does, does go through like what you could, like a crucible of fire, whatever.
Speaker A:Like it's an extreme, what, 10 months or so where she is dragged through life and gets so many experience points.
Speaker A:And at the end of it, if you do think of it as in terms of experience points, she goes from like a level one character to like a level 15 character.
Speaker A:Meaning she's now formidable and she understands how the world works and she's got contacts.
Speaker A:She is to a certain extent dangerous.
Speaker B:She's got momentum.
Speaker A:She can go on quests, much higher level quests than she could have at the beginning.
Speaker A:And so when she returns to her friends, like the hobbits returning to the Shire, they're looking around like, wow, we don't fit here anymore.
Speaker A:Or except Sam, because Sam just like sucks.
Speaker A:Love me?
Speaker A:So I love this girl here.
Speaker A:But you know, the Frodo would just say, I can't, I can't go from.
Speaker A:I can't go from seeing what I've seen and doing what I've.
Speaker A:I've done and having the conversations about, you know, global politics and.
Speaker C:Back to the Shire.
Speaker A:Yeah, back to the sh.
Speaker A:To talk about potatoes.
Speaker A:It's challenging for them and that's what Anne Hathaway's done.
Speaker A:That's why a friendship group are pulling away.
Speaker A:Partly because they may even realize they're only inadequacies and which isn't necessarily that they are inadequacies, but I think that's their fear that she's doing this and I'm not.
Speaker A:And we can all fall into that danger of comparison and say, well, my friend goes on two holidays a year.
Speaker A:They've got more money or they've got a better car and I should be doing that and we can become Resentful when people do that.
Speaker C:And almost the Kathleen Turner in the Romancing in the Stone episode, don't forget to look it up if you haven't listened to it yet.
Speaker C:But where Kathleen Turner, after the adventure, gets all the confidence, and then you see a grow in the film.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker C:And although this isn't a traditional or we're looking for treasure adventure, it is very much that growth of the character.
Speaker C:And when you see her at the end, looking across at Meryl Streep's character, you can see the confidence radiant out of Anne Hathaway's Andy character.
Speaker A:Honestly, I know she's done, like, makeover films before.
Speaker C:Four Princess Diaries.
Speaker A:I see.
Speaker A:I knew.
Speaker A:I knew.
Speaker A:I didn't know the name, and I knew that Paul would.
Speaker C:Princess Diaries two Royal Engagement.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But then she.
Speaker C:Oh, in this film.
Speaker C:Sorry.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Then she does that makeover, and all she does is, you know, have a makeup, and it's like queer Wife for the straight guy.
Speaker B:Hair, makeup, clothes.
Speaker A:Looks so fine because of what she's.
Speaker A:And it made me.
Speaker C:I liked it before in my wardrobe.
Speaker B:She was acting more confident, though.
Speaker A:Yeah, she was also good.
Speaker A:Clothes make you act more.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's made me look at my wardrobe, and then I did some research, like, how.
Speaker A:How do guys dress?
Speaker A:And it's like, I haven't got the money or the budget or I can't even.
Speaker A:I can't even.
Speaker A:I need to date someone who works in fashion so they can give me a makeover.
Speaker C:So if you're listening.
Speaker C:Yeah, he's available, ready to try on clothes.
Speaker A:I also, like, with Stanley, took his character as a mentor, that is kind of a bit of a broken mentor.
Speaker A:Like, he hasn't got all the answers.
Speaker A:He's got some of the answers.
Speaker A:And I like mentors like that.
Speaker A:Like, I like Hamish in Hunger Games because he's like an alcoholic mentor, and I'm like a broken mentor.
Speaker A:You know, broke, in debt, single, divorced, no pension, no plan for my life.
Speaker A:Like, clinging to this podcast to save me.
Speaker A:But I'll give people advice all day long.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's good.
Speaker C:I feel that's another T shirt, either.
Speaker C:Can we just create a lot of merchandise?
Speaker C:I think.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's quotes.
Speaker C:But the fact that I put identity as well, which kind of led on from the last week's movie when we did the Matrix.
Speaker C:It's like how fashion helps make your identity.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And how especially important it is in this world.
Speaker C:And at the start, Andy's character is very much like.
Speaker C:It's a belt who cares?
Speaker C:So she's diminishing their world.
Speaker C:And then it's Stanley who sort of says, yeah, but it's bigger.
Speaker C:It's a bigger world, isn't it?
Speaker C:And he talks about the icons that have walked the halls.
Speaker C:And that belt means.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker A:But also male sheep does a speech.
Speaker A:She said, you know, you're wearing civilian blue, but you don't understand and does it.
Speaker A:And that's the only time it preach.
Speaker A:It doesn't even.
Speaker A:It's not even preaching necessarily about fashion, but it's the only time it educates.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And it's like, this is why it's important.
Speaker A:You don't need to track all the other stuff.
Speaker A:You don't need to know all these names and all these famous, like, cameos that we've got.
Speaker A:But this fashion is impacting your life both in terms of our confidence, but also what you have the opportunity to buy.
Speaker C:You know, obviously to the extreme because they all have to suddenly wear heels when.
Speaker C:When the characters in the office.
Speaker A:Yeah, but it's on Brandy.
Speaker B:There's a point where she ends up defending Miranda and she's like, yeah, if Miranda was a man, no one would say anything.
Speaker A:I think that's one of the most spot on lines in it.
Speaker A:And that's why I said this was.
Speaker B:Like 20 years ago.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:Which is why it's a bit unfair to call it the Devil West Pada, because if it was a man, we wouldn't be saying that.
Speaker A:We'd be like, he's such a driven, ambitious man.
Speaker A:It always feels like a little bit of a Darren segment when I go on these little rants.
Speaker A:But it's only a small one.
Speaker C:The horn section.
Speaker C:We need to dub this the horn section and have a theme tune.
Speaker A:The thing I have, it's changing and I have no issue with age difference, relationships, as you know.
Speaker A:You know, I've dated people my own age, but also people older, people younger.
Speaker A:But there's some age differences in this movie.
Speaker A:And I think the thing that bothers me is that she's like an innocent.
Speaker A:So I think Andre is so.
Speaker A:Anne Hathaway's character is 23 in this movie.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So she's, you know, she's gone to uni.
Speaker A:She's just coming out.
Speaker A:So she's new and fresh faced.
Speaker A:That got.
Speaker A:Her boyfriend is 29.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:So that's.
Speaker A:So how long they been 18 for?
Speaker A:You know, I don't know.
Speaker A:But then the guy, Christian Thompson, the fashion guy, is 36.
Speaker A:So now you've got a 36 year old fashion icon guy in a position of power, praying on a 23 year old new assistant who's new to the city.
Speaker A:It bothered me.
Speaker B:I didn't feel like he was preying on her, like he liked her.
Speaker A:Based on what though?
Speaker A:Like just looks.
Speaker B:Well, he wasn't, he wasn't, like calling her, hounding her, following her.
Speaker B:He would show up, they would meet, but he wasn't, didn't seem like he was hounding her.
Speaker C:He was all kind of charming and suave.
Speaker A:Meets her in Paris, she's a bit drunk, she's saying no, he carries on anyway.
Speaker C:But then she says, I'm out of excuses, thank God for him.
Speaker A:So that's what we need to do.
Speaker A:We just keep pushing until they say, oh, now when you put it like.
Speaker C:That, that sounds really bad.
Speaker A:I know, it's a bugbear mine.
Speaker A:It was just a, she's, you know, and I'm nearly 50, so I'm like, she's a kid.
Speaker A:If my daughter was away on a new job at 23 years old in freaking Paris and a 36 year old was like hanging around her.
Speaker C:So first you do with the holiday, now you do with this.
Speaker C:But I can see what you're saying, it's.
Speaker A:I can, it's changing.
Speaker A:But I, and again, I have no issue with, on the whole, with the age difference relationship, but she is, because she's an innocent and she's out of a depth and she doesn't really have a team around her protecting her allies.
Speaker A:She's been separated from her friends and her boyfriends by this system that's part.
Speaker B:Of her hero's journey.
Speaker B:She becomes independent.
Speaker A:Yeah, totally.
Speaker A:She does.
Speaker C:And I think what pissed me off more than that was the fact that one minute he's like this charming, suave dude and then the next minute, when they wake up, the next day he's kind of like, I don't know, another shark in the water.
Speaker C:And all of that just falls off him.
Speaker C:And it's like, oh, there he really is.
Speaker C:He's another shark.
Speaker A:Baby, it's done.
Speaker A:And she's like, I'm not your baby.
Speaker A:I was like, that's what made me think, wait, how old are you?
Speaker C:I went down that rabbit hole.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's icky.
Speaker A:I just think it's icky.
Speaker A:Go back to being in the Mentalist.
Speaker A:Stop chasing that.
Speaker C:Back off.
Speaker C:Go back to the Mentalist.
Speaker A:Yeah, like it's all right.
Speaker A:Like I'm not, I don't care that much.
Speaker A:But it was just, it was just a curiosity.
Speaker B:So the ending could be framed.
Speaker B:I think people might have missed what the.
Speaker B:How the ending was film or perceived.
Speaker A:What do you guys think?
Speaker B:Well, the end is.
Speaker B:It's not rejection of ambition.
Speaker B:It's more of a recalibration.
Speaker B:Like she's.
Speaker B:She doesn't walk away from success, she walks away from that version of success.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker B:Or it's a nuance people might miss when they, when they frame the ending as she's choosing love off her career.
Speaker B:She's just not choosing that kind of success because she's figured out that she's done enough to which she.
Speaker B:And she's become more self aware that she can.
Speaker B:She's come out of it a stronger person so, you know, can go where she wants.
Speaker C:And she even says that to the newspaper guy.
Speaker C:I learned a lot.
Speaker C:And that's when we have the nice little twist of she said, I'm an idiot if I don't hire you.
Speaker B:The way she goes with a boyfriend, they try and get, you know, it looks like they're going to get back together.
Speaker B:People might assume that she's just chosen love of a career where really I don't think she did.
Speaker A:I also think Miranda's smiling because Anne Hathaway having the confidence and strength to do that is a very Miranda thing to do.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:And Anne Hathaway is now going to go and dominate the journalistic skills.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:She's just chosen where she wants transferable skills.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And getting that glowing review was the.
Speaker C:Oh, so she was the mentor, but she was the mentor to get away.
Speaker C:She needed to go.
Speaker A:It's kind of like the mentor who tortures you slightly too few to learn.
Speaker A:You know, wax on, wax off.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:And the interesting thing is going to be in this sequel because sometimes with these things it's like, okay, I like the way that's left.
Speaker B:She's found 20 years has passed.
Speaker B:What's going to happen?
Speaker C:And it looks very much from the trailer that they're like tag teaming up.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:I think there's a clip where they go into the elevator together.
Speaker C:So it's like, okay, the reunited.
Speaker C:What does this mean?
Speaker B:Under what circumstances?
Speaker C:And is it gonna kind of ruin that end or is it gonna build on it Top Gun, Maverick style, where you're like, oh, okay, this is built on it in a great way.
Speaker C:We can only hope.
Speaker A:It's tough though, isn't it?
Speaker A:Because this was based on a book.
Speaker A:It was written by a woman and the screenplay was written by a woman.
Speaker A:And I think the author of the book had worked in the industry.
Speaker A:And it was kind of based on her influences or experiences.
Speaker A:So I was just curious as to what the second one is going to.
Speaker C:Be based on and if they've got any link into it.
Speaker A: going to make it relevant to: Speaker A:Because now, when this came out, your fashion was one thing.
Speaker A:Now there's much more of a push about sustainable.
Speaker A:What's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker C:Sustainable resources.
Speaker B:Sustainability.
Speaker A:Sustainability.
Speaker A:And, you know, not using slave labor would be great.
Speaker A:And caring for the environment, like, there's a lot of them that they're going to have to navigate in a.
Speaker A:Without feeling like they're whacking us over the head with it to make it relevant.
Speaker B:I mean, there was some of this that was a bit outdated.
Speaker B:There was certainly is this.
Speaker B:It's part of this, like, comedy, like a satire.
Speaker A:I don't think so.
Speaker B:There's certain lines in Laurie.
Speaker B:She's like, oh, I'm on a diet.
Speaker B:What did you call it?
Speaker B:If I don't eat for days and I get hungry?
Speaker B:A block of cheese.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It wasn't.
Speaker A:No, I don't think it was even a block of cheese or something else.
Speaker B:That's what she said.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's another.
Speaker B:I want to eat that I wrote down.
Speaker B:I want this new diet where basically I don't eat.
Speaker B:And when I feel like I'm gonna faint, I eat a cube of cheese.
Speaker A:Oh, a cube of cheese.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:A six is the new 14.
Speaker C:I think there's meant to be tongue in cheeks at one point.
Speaker C:Like, some of the bitchiness I think is meant to be a bit Stanley.
Speaker A:Took at one point is like, oh, I'll find a dress for this size six.
Speaker A:She's like, oh, size four.
Speaker A:Oh, well done.
Speaker A:I'm just like, this is not.
Speaker B:It's like size this.
Speaker B:It is a bit outdated.
Speaker B:At one point, she.
Speaker B:She's basically being fat.
Speaker B:Shamed for being slim.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:I'm with the fat girl and I'm.
Speaker C:And we're all looking at an out the way going.
Speaker C:Seriously, I don't think so.
Speaker B:That brings us on to Paul's Amazing Facts of the Day.
Speaker B:What you got, Paul?
Speaker C:Amazing Facts of the Day.
Speaker C:Okay, on the.
Speaker C:I like this one.
Speaker C:On the first day of filming, Meryl Streep told Anne Hathaway, I think you're perfect for the role.
Speaker C:I'm so happy we're going to be working together.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Can you imagine being an actress and being told by a mentor who you probably got into the industry because of in Terms of seeing them and being inspired by.
Speaker A:And then they tell you that on you, you would have been.
Speaker A:You would have had imposter syndrome.
Speaker A:You would have been terrified.
Speaker A:And what a nice thing to do.
Speaker B:However.
Speaker B:However.
Speaker C:She then paused and followed it up with, that's the last nice thing I'll say to you.
Speaker C:And it was because obviously probably went into character mode and.
Speaker C:But you're right.
Speaker B: Been in much at this point,: Speaker A:Yeah, stuff.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:She.
Speaker C:She started off with.
Speaker C:Not that I've, you know, followed her career with great intent, but she started off very much in the Princess Diaries.
Speaker C:That was a Garry Marshall film.
Speaker C:Disney.
Speaker C:Then Princess Diaries to Eleanor, Enchanted.
Speaker C:So she was doing princess stuff.
Speaker C:But then she started branching out into more serious drama things as well, because she didn't want to just get typecast for that.
Speaker C:Despite multiple fashion designer loans, Patricia Field spent more than 1 million on costuming but making it the most expensively costumed film in history.
Speaker C:Field received her sole Oscar nomination for her work on this film.
Speaker C:So out of all the costume dramas you can think of, this is probably one of the most expensive because all the costumes were sold off at an auction.
Speaker C:Research for breast cancer.
Speaker C:Anne Hathaway bought the green dress her character gets to wear.
Speaker C: money, money, money scene in: Speaker C:The character of Emily Blunt, who we said was also in this film, was not supposed to be English in the script, but Blunt thought it would be interested and sound a bit more imperious.
Speaker C:And in several, several scenes, she is seen running about in the background, though never written.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:But her accent's so weird.
Speaker B:It makes it sound like she's an American.
Speaker B:Put on a faking English accent, I find.
Speaker C:Yeah, but she is very authentic.
Speaker B:It's weird.
Speaker A:No, that feels like her accent.
Speaker A:A real voice.
Speaker C:I think that's her and that.
Speaker C:But she's married to John Krasinski from.
Speaker A:The Office, who is obsessed with this movie.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Where is it?
Speaker C:I've got a fact about that somewhere.
Speaker C:I think he quotes it to.
Speaker C:If I can't find it.
Speaker C:Something like.
Speaker C:He quotes it to her on a weekly basis because he's seen it loads, which is quite hilarious.
Speaker C:It was filmed in 57 days and the final cut was finished in three weeks.
Speaker C:Meryl Streep almost left production during the early stages due to dissatisfaction with a salary.
Speaker C:The novel sold over a million copies, spent 10 weeks at number one and spent a year on the New York Times bestseller list.
Speaker C:And the film was also a box office smash.
Speaker C:The novel has since been published in 40 languages.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker C: m in against Superman Returns: Speaker C:And in the end, Devil Wears Prada actually outdid Superman Returns at the international box office.
Speaker C:The original screenplay was developed before the novel was published.
Speaker C:That's interesting.
Speaker C:And it had four credited writers and read as a spoof of the fashion industry, similar to Zoolander.
Speaker C:When the novel became a best seller and the director, David Frankel, got on board, the script was changed to deal with striving for excellence and personal sacrifices.
Speaker C:For money, as always.
Speaker C:And Meryl Streep based her character's icy, calm, quiet voice on Clint Eastwood's way of running a set.
Speaker C:As for Miranda's appearance, Streep thought about of the famous 85 year old model Carmen Dell', Orefice, known for her trademark white bouffant.
Speaker C:She said that she wanted a cross between her and the unassailable elegance and the authority of Christine Lagarde.
Speaker B:Remind me of Cruella de Vil.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:She definitely had an error there.
Speaker C:The producers were initially keen on it, but changed their minds the first time Meryl came in channeling Miranda in a meeting.
Speaker C:So it's a bit like, I suppose, like when Johnny Depp did Jack Sparrow for the first time and all the producers were a bit like, oh, oh, we don't know what he's doing there.
Speaker C:That's a bit weird.
Speaker C:And then obviously it becomes legendary.
Speaker A:I was just really curious about the director and I forgot to look it up because it's not a name I recognize.
Speaker A:And he's kind of bounces all over the place.
Speaker A:He did two episodes of Band of Brothers.
Speaker A:He did Sex and City.
Speaker B:Who is that?
Speaker B:Who is it?
Speaker A:David Frankel.
Speaker A:Is that his name?
Speaker C:Frankel?
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:He also did six episodes of Sex and City, two episodes of Entourage.
Speaker A:He was a tv.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Then he did Devil as Prada onto Marley and Me.
Speaker A:Then there's just really nothing I recognize at all.
Speaker A:Manifest.
Speaker A:And then he's Devil.
Speaker A:Wes Prada too.
Speaker C:Yeah, I was gonna say.
Speaker C:Is he coming back for that?
Speaker C:And the one thing we love about Anne Hathaway, of course, is in real life, she is quite clumsy.
Speaker C:A bit like a character in the Princess Diaries.
Speaker C:And I watched the outtakes to Devil Wears Prada and she did not disappoint.
Speaker C:She was falling over in the street and laughing at herself.
Speaker C:And she Truly is lovely.
Speaker C:And one more final fact before I go off on a tangent about how much I love Anne Hathaway.
Speaker C:Lauren Weisberger, she's the author of the book on which the film is based.
Speaker C:She has an uncredited cameo role, about 54 minutes in the film as the twins nanny.
Speaker B:So there you go.
Speaker C:So the author has a bit of a cameo.
Speaker C:And like you say, there's cameos of all kinds of fashion people in there as well.
Speaker B:Thank you very much.
Speaker B:One fact I wish I've written down, which I sure you were gonna read out, is that Emily Blunt and Stanley Tucci, our brother and sister in law.
Speaker A:Oh, I did know that.
Speaker C:Oh, yes, yes.
Speaker B:I was convinced you were gonna.
Speaker B:I wrote it down for there's no point Paul's gonna read that one out.
Speaker C:No, I didn't know that either.
Speaker C:And I saw it and I was like, yeah, when did this happen?
Speaker C:And I think they've stayed friends as well over the years.
Speaker C:Anne Hathaway and Emily Blunt, which is quite sweet.
Speaker C:Is Emily Blunt gonna be in the sequel as well?
Speaker B:Time will tell.
Speaker B:Thanks for.
Speaker B:Thanks for your facts, Paul.
Speaker B:Few facts much appreciated.
Speaker B:That takes us on to hate it or rate it.
Speaker B:And since this was Mr. Mr. Darren Horn's choice, I'm gonna go to you first.
Speaker A:This feels like it's a thing with movies that are based on books in that there's not usually any great filmmaking technique added to it.
Speaker A:I'm sure that's a generalization.
Speaker C:And I'm sure the opening scene's pretty cool though.
Speaker C:Lays it all out.
Speaker A:It's basically the same as Pretty Woman.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:What's wrong with that?
Speaker A:Nothing.
Speaker A:It's just like, okay, let's look at women getting ready.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:There's nothing above that.
Speaker A:You know, it's serviceable direction.
Speaker C:It's cut to the song.
Speaker A:It's cut to the song.
Speaker C:I like that.
Speaker A:There's also an abundance of montage.
Speaker A:Music video sections.
Speaker C:Yeah, I like those.
Speaker C:I love a montage.
Speaker C:Can you tell Darren?
Speaker B:Not so much.
Speaker A:Well, I think they do kind of work here.
Speaker A:And I'll forgive the serviceable kind of direction.
Speaker A:I mean, it's hard coming off of the Matrix.
Speaker B:What do you mean by that phrase?
Speaker B:I'm not familiar with that phrase.
Speaker A:It's almost filming it.
Speaker A:Like theater.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:So the camera's not adding anything to it.
Speaker C:Okay, so there's no camera movement particularly.
Speaker A:Well, there can be movement, but it's not even okay.
Speaker A:So let's say we're filming, you two have a conversation.
Speaker A:This is really basic, like blocking If.
Speaker A:If.
Speaker A:Let's say you're talking to friends, I might film that as a two shot.
Speaker A:So you're both in shot, like a wide shot.
Speaker A:But then if you start arguing, I'll break the two shot and go to a single.
Speaker A:And then a single.
Speaker A:Because I want to show that you're isolated from each other.
Speaker A:Or if it was, say, you were in a, say, relationship and I was showing that the relationship wasn't going to last, I might put something in between you, like a lamppost, like a barrier or something symbolic.
Speaker A:So there's ways to do that kind of visual story.
Speaker C:See that a lot in TV editing to jump between.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And yeah.
Speaker A:So it's basically things like that.
Speaker B:Serviceable direction.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So he's directed it well, but he's not an artist.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Does that make sense?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The script is the art in this.
Speaker A:I mean, it's great if you can combine the two and you can have, like, a great script and great filmmaking, but you can also have a terrible script and awesome filmmaking.
Speaker A:You know, it balances.
Speaker A:So it's like, fine.
Speaker A:I was like, yeah, you.
Speaker A:You made a movie well done, but the dialogue is through the roof.
Speaker A:Insane.
Speaker A:It's just wonderful.
Speaker A:The first time I ever watched this, I definitely got submitted with Emily Blunt because I do like a woman who is sarcastic and puts me down if it makes me feel bad about myself.
Speaker C:If you're listening, listeners, and you're that woman calling now on our hotline.
Speaker A:And she has so many good quotes.
Speaker A:So, like, that.
Speaker A:I can't even talk about that.
Speaker A:And even Stanley took.
Speaker A:He's like, who is that sad little person?
Speaker C:Sad little person?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she.
Speaker A:I think she asks.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:And Hathaway asks Emily Blunt to do something.
Speaker A:She's like, no, Shant.
Speaker A:Everything she says is amazing.
Speaker A:Like, you don't deserve them.
Speaker A:You don't even eat carbs.
Speaker A:It just.
Speaker A:Everything she says they're just doing wonderfully.
Speaker A:I mean, there's some fun stuff going on, but.
Speaker A:But it is.
Speaker A:It feels like a little bit.
Speaker A:This could be a play and you wouldn't have to change that much.
Speaker A:It's basically.
Speaker C:In fact, it's surprising they haven't made it into a play.
Speaker C:I wonder if they have.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But, you know, Stanley took his wonderful in it.
Speaker A:I love that line where he says, this is a place where many people would die to work and you only deign to work.
Speaker A:I'm like, and that kind of growth is good.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:I feel like I'm rambling.
Speaker A:I absolutely loved it.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker C:Oh, there it is.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker C:There it is.
Speaker B:Two in a row.
Speaker C:Hey, we're on a roll.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker B:New Year, New Darren.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker A:I was kind of nervous going in and it opened.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, this is like Pretty Woman.
Speaker A:Like, to come and be creative.
Speaker A:And then I did worry about new body image stuff and things her friends, I think, are awful.
Speaker A:But I've kind of covered that earlier.
Speaker C:I wrote a swear word down.
Speaker C:That's how.
Speaker C:That's how bad they were in that scene for you bitches.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker A:So, yeah, I really enjoyed it.
Speaker A:The musical montages didn't bug me.
Speaker A:The acting is superb.
Speaker A:The dialogue is so tight, so well written, even a little bit, I can't remember.
Speaker A:I think she was showing her.
Speaker A:Emily Blunt was showing her the book.
Speaker A:Like, this is the book, the Bible.
Speaker A:Don't touch.
Speaker A:I was just like, oh, that's so believable.
Speaker A:And, yeah, I also like the fact that it wasn't always a beauty pageant.
Speaker A:Like, there was times when I think Anne Hathaway had been crying or Emily Blunt was in hospital.
Speaker A:And, yeah, they'd have movie makeup, but she looked ill. Like, she didn't look like she was a model with makeup in bed.
Speaker A:She looked like she was ill and was annoyed and pissed off at the world, and it felt sincere and true.
Speaker A:So I liked it a lot.
Speaker A:There's a few things that I have niggles with, which is, is there some, you know, too much focus on losing weight or fashion, whatever.
Speaker A:But it did make me want to go look at fashion.
Speaker B:But is that a reflection of just the industry?
Speaker A:Yeah, and also the time it was made, possibly.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I'm going to give it an eight.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker B:Paul.
Speaker C:I remembered kind of the main beats of it, but I can remember it sort of as of as a film.
Speaker B:You already own this?
Speaker C:Yeah, I got a DVD for this podcast.
Speaker B:Or you already owned it?
Speaker C:No, I already found it in the shop somewhere.
Speaker C:I think I thrifted it from a charity shop.
Speaker C:I'm like, ooh, Devil's Opera.
Speaker C:Yeah, I've seen that for a while.
Speaker C:So I watched it again, obviously, for this, and it's one of them that's been on my list.
Speaker C:I need to rewatch that because I love Anne Hathaway.
Speaker C:I don't know if that came across enough in the rest of this podcast, but I do love Ann Hathaway.
Speaker C:I think she's so.
Speaker C:What's the word?
Speaker B:She's versatile.
Speaker C:Versatile.
Speaker C:That's the word I'm looking for.
Speaker C:I'm in love with her as well.
Speaker C:So I'm kind of Biased.
Speaker C:But yeah, she's very versatile with the sort of roles to watch her be sort of goofy in other films and then watch her, you know, so serious in other films.
Speaker C:Les Mis, that kind of thing.
Speaker C:And then in here she's sort of a bit of both, which is great.
Speaker C:So I loved it.
Speaker C:I love the hero's journey.
Speaker C:I've always said this.
Speaker C:I like films that are sort of coming of age films and things like that.
Speaker C:I'm big into that.
Speaker C:The fashion, it's probably not aimed at me as like what you said straight at the start of the podcast made me laughter because I felt you, you watch this film and you think it's not really for me because I'm not into fashion.
Speaker C:But it doesn't matter.
Speaker C:It's nothing to do with the fashion.
Speaker C:It's about the world.
Speaker C:And like you say, it could be sports, it could be anything, it could be music, it could be theater, it could be like the Natalie Portman in Black Swan where she's doing the ballet thing and it's all really intense.
Speaker C:So yeah, loved it.
Speaker C:I'm trying to put a number on it though.
Speaker C:So I'm gonna give it.
Speaker C:Let's give it just slightly below yours, Darren.
Speaker C:Let's give it a seven point.
Speaker A:You're going under me.
Speaker B:Oh, doesn' very often.
Speaker C:I was just trying to make it interesting.
Speaker B:Seven point.
Speaker C:I'm gonna give it 7.9.
Speaker C:Just, just, just, just to keep it.
Speaker C:But loved watching it.
Speaker C:This is the thing but I'm thinking, is it up there with some of my favorite sci fi's or is it up there with some of the stuff that I'm really into?
Speaker C:Probably not.
Speaker A:How did you feel watching it?
Speaker C:But I really enjoyed watching it.
Speaker C:But I'm like, that were most films so that's why I hate writing them.
Speaker C:I come out going, I really enjoyed that.
Speaker C:But like you say with some of your ratings, it's like I didn't enjoy it.
Speaker C:I tend to enjoy most of the films.
Speaker C:It's then try to place it in the place of no film order because I don't really like ordering them because how is this the same as that film over there?
Speaker C:It's completely different.
Speaker C:So I'll give it a 7.9.
Speaker C:Just, just to slightly under it.
Speaker C:But definitely brilliant, solid film writings on point acting, fantastic.
Speaker C:Meryl Streep, Anna Hathaway, Stanley Emily.
Speaker C:And I do think there is tongue in cheek humor.
Speaker C:I think you're right.
Speaker C:It's all played very straight.
Speaker C:But there is bits that are definitely deadpan but funny with it.
Speaker A:But also, I mean there was some kind of visual storytelling because that scene in the car where she's giving her the speech at.
Speaker A:You're becoming me.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:They're kind of dressed the same.
Speaker A:Like she's more like a mini me.
Speaker A:Which is nice.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Nice bit of sim symbolism potentially.
Speaker C:But yeah.
Speaker C:No, really loved it.
Speaker C:Really enjoyed the film, Mark.
Speaker B:I concur.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like I didn't see this before.
Speaker B:I've never seen it, any of it.
Speaker B:I didn't get bored.
Speaker B:Like I said in some films where like I've checked my phone or quite tightly edited.
Speaker B:Isn't it quite tight, the stories moves quite quickly.
Speaker B:I didn't felt it slowed down too much.
Speaker B:There was like different layers of her personal life and her career like kind of collide and it's.
Speaker B:It's an age old story.
Speaker B:Like how driven are you?
Speaker B:How much do you want this?
Speaker B:What you prefer to sacrifice?
Speaker B:And I like, I like things like that.
Speaker B:But the full circle at the end where she decides.
Speaker B:She kind of makes her own decision.
Speaker B:She doesn't just.
Speaker B:She doesn't fully get sucked into it.
Speaker B:She's like, I've had that.
Speaker C:I know, I know what it's about, the taste.
Speaker B:I'm gonna go, she does it.
Speaker B:She does it.
Speaker B:What her boss doesn't think she's going to do, she has got the balls to do that.
Speaker B:She does.
Speaker A:It's also kind of mythic.
Speaker A:It's like the trials of Hercules.
Speaker A:It's like to get where you want to be, this is what you're going to have to do.
Speaker B:Go through.
Speaker A:And I think Jimmy Carr talks about this.
Speaker A:Don't know.
Speaker A:I think we mentioned him quite a bit.
Speaker C:Yeah, we do.
Speaker A:He was like a.
Speaker A:Lots of comics want what I've got, but they don't want to do what I got to get here.
Speaker B:They're going to go.
Speaker B:They're going to go through what I have to go through.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I'm going to give it a solid 7.2.
Speaker B:Good solid film.
Speaker B:I enjoyed it.
Speaker A:One of my favorite lines which I forgot to mention is there's a bit when the boyfriend's being a douche and it's the birthday that she missed.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he says, you look really pretty.
Speaker A:But he doesn't mean that as a compliment.
Speaker A:He's like, looks what's important to you now.
Speaker A:Fashion's what's important to you now.
Speaker A:It's a dig.
Speaker A:It's really passive aggressive writing and I'm here for it.
Speaker C:It's the way he just walks off to bed.
Speaker C:He's like, ah, we don't really talk about this.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:16Th place out of what we on to 53 now.
Speaker C:So it's still good.
Speaker B:Still in the upper echelons just above Ghostbusters and Running man, the original Running man.
Speaker B:And it's just below Predator and History of Violence.
Speaker C:And this is why I'm thinking it's.
Speaker A:A little flower amongst the masculine explosion.
Speaker C:But this is what I'm saying.
Speaker C:Like Ghostbusters.
Speaker C:Come on, Darren.
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker C:I was bored never letting that one go.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker B:That's what we thought of the movie.
Speaker B:We'd like to know what you thought of the movie.
Speaker B:So please get in touch, let us know and we'll read them out on the show.
Speaker B:Okay, thanks.
Speaker B:Gentlemen.
Speaker B:Let's move on to part three, which is the listener lounge.
Speaker B:So in part three we have the lobby where we share your comments, answer your questions, read out your messages.
Speaker B:Then we ask our question of the week and we finish by revealing next week's movie.
Speaker B:So we've had a couple of a message and a comment randomly in the middle of the night.
Speaker B:Kieran, still friend of the show, messaged and he's put.
Speaker B:I'll read, lads.
Speaker C:Friend of the show, friend of the show.
Speaker B:Kieran, have you seen.
Speaker B:There's a new Street Fighter being made and a sneak peek has been revealed.
Speaker B:I'm not sure what they're going.
Speaker B:Where they're going with it because Darren's.
Speaker B:Dan's about to leave his.
Speaker C:His head went in his hands there very briefly.
Speaker B:Some parts look serious and other bits look very cheesy, but in a daft fun way.
Speaker B:However, no John.
Speaker B:John Claude Van Damme in this one.
Speaker A:Street Fighter has the perfect version of it, but it's anime or manga, what the young people say.
Speaker A:But the.
Speaker A:The kind of manga version of Street Fighter is freaking superb.
Speaker C:What, better than Van Damme's God beyond better.
Speaker C:But it hasn't got Kylie Minogue though.
Speaker A:Just the iterations of the representation of all the characters is amazing.
Speaker A:There's a.
Speaker A:There's a fight between Chun Li and Vega, which is just horrific.
Speaker A:And is it Guile?
Speaker A:The guy with the big blonde hair, he's like.
Speaker A:He's racing through the streets to try and get to her because he knows what's happening.
Speaker A:And then she kicks the phone and he hears it and he's like, hang in there, I'm coming.
Speaker A:And she is kicking the crap out of Vega.
Speaker C:So what's this called, this Street Fighter?
Speaker C:The Street Fighter, but it's the manga version.
Speaker A:Absolutely superb.
Speaker B:I've not seen The Street Fighter movie.
Speaker C:Have you the original movie.
Speaker A:Please, nobody.
Speaker A:Don't even think about it.
Speaker B:Shush.
Speaker A:Moving on.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's got a certain charm to it and no it hasn't in its terribleness.
Speaker B:So the answer is no, we have not seen that and we don't know anything about it.
Speaker C:I've seen the trailer.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:And in answer what you're thinking, Kieran, I think it's been done very much with a tongue in cheek style once again, which Darren is.
Speaker B:Oh, you mean like hot shots?
Speaker C:Not quite as tongue in cheek as Hotshots but I think they're not taking themselves too seriously.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So if you've got any messages you want to message the show, you can voice send us a voice message.
Speaker B:Just go to Movies in a nutshell dot com.
Speaker B:Our email is hello Movies in a nutshell dot com.
Speaker B:And also you can get touch with in touch with us on the socials.
Speaker B:Links are in the show notes.
Speaker B:So we did have a few responses to a final.
Speaker B:I waited until we got enough from the one from Elf which was.
Speaker B:Oh no, it wasn't Elf.
Speaker B:It was one of our Christmas movies which was the traditions that you refuse to give up your weird Christmas traditions.
Speaker B:Remember that?
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker B:Darren's looking at blank for a minute.
Speaker C:We couldn't think of any though other people can.
Speaker C:Oh great.
Speaker C:Bring them on.
Speaker C:So mine was very much just watching Christmas films, which shocking.
Speaker B:The question was what's a Christmas.
Speaker B:A Christmas tradition you absolutely refuse to give up no matter how weird, old fashioned or nutritionally questionable or safety wise.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't know what that.
Speaker B:Safety questionable.
Speaker C:Safety questionable, that's the thing.
Speaker B:A couple trickled in but now we've had a few so I'll read them out.
Speaker B:So Sarah P. Says we have a Christmas Eve beige night.
Speaker B:Everything we eat is beige.
Speaker B:Nuggets, chips, party sausages, vol au vents, crisps, no vegetables allowed.
Speaker B:It started as a joke and now it's basically sacred.
Speaker B:Beige night.
Speaker B:I don't mind beige food.
Speaker C:I could go for beige.
Speaker B:It's fine by me.
Speaker A:Love it.
Speaker C:Sign us up.
Speaker B:Tom W. Wrote in.
Speaker B:Every Christmas morning we watch the same film on vhs.
Speaker B:We own it on DVD and streaming, but it has to be the battered old tape adverts and all.
Speaker B:If it ever breaks, I honestly don't know what we'll do.
Speaker C:Did they say which film it was?
Speaker C:No, they didn't say.
Speaker B:As if you like messages back in.
Speaker B:Tell us what film is.
Speaker C:You know what that is now.
Speaker B:He's probably got it on vhs.
Speaker C:As well, I probably have because if it's the Muppet Christmas Carol, there's the singing bit with Scrooge that they cut out of the dvd, but that's a ramp for another day.
Speaker B:Dan Roper says we still hide a pickle in the Christmas tree.
Speaker B:No one remembers where it came from or whoever and.
Speaker B:But whoever finds it gets an extra present.
Speaker B:We're all in our 30s and it's still ridiculously competitive about it.
Speaker C:They hide a pickle in the Christmas tree.
Speaker B:If you find it, you get extra present.
Speaker C:Amazing.
Speaker B:Julie M. 28.
Speaker B:I still get an orange in my stocking every year.
Speaker B:I'm 42.
Speaker B:I don't even like oranges.
Speaker B:But if it's not there, Christmas feels wrong.
Speaker C:Yeah, it used to be a satsuma when I was a kid.
Speaker B:That was it.
Speaker B:So thanks for sending us those in.
Speaker B:That's pretty cool.
Speaker B:Question of the week.
Speaker A:Tell us your work.
Speaker A:Horror stories.
Speaker C:That's good.
Speaker A:And did it.
Speaker A:And did it pay off?
Speaker A:When did you go through hell at work but it paid off or when did you quit?
Speaker C:Yeah, I can't area of any.
Speaker C:Any of those because, you know, probably.
Speaker C:Probably get arrested or something.
Speaker B:Previous employers, though?
Speaker C:No, I haven't really got any work.
Speaker C:Horror stories or have I, Darren?
Speaker A:Yeah, I've had some horrendous bosses, but I wouldn't talk about them on a podcast.
Speaker C:Maybe this question isn't the correct one, but you can write in an.
Speaker C:Honestly now, kids had a good boss.
Speaker A:When I worked in my first pub and we were paid cash.
Speaker A:But he would.
Speaker A:It would be a Friday night, I think, when we got paid, but he would keep his cash on him.
Speaker A:I'll pay on him.
Speaker A:And then he would.
Speaker A:We would go out to a nightclub and he would use our own money to buy us the drinks.
Speaker A:Oh, but it was part of turning me into a man, Paul.
Speaker C:That's what you're saying.
Speaker A:You don't know how to talk to women.
Speaker A:You don't know how to look after yourself.
Speaker A:You need to take you out.
Speaker A:And so that's what we do.
Speaker B:So this week's question of the week is.
Speaker B:Tell us some of your horrible boss stories.
Speaker B:The Good, the bad and the ugly.
Speaker B:I'm sure people will have some.
Speaker C:I'm sure there'll be some good ones.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Or bad ones.
Speaker B:Well, you don't work there anymore, so you can now talk about it.
Speaker C:And anonymously.
Speaker B:And anonymously.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:In the.
Speaker B:In the section called.
Speaker B:I shouldn't be telling you this, but that's what we want, right?
Speaker B:That takes Us on to next week's movie.
Speaker B:It's over to Mr. Paul Day.
Speaker A:Go for it.
Speaker B:Poor.
Speaker A:No pressure.
Speaker B:Where we're going, what we're doing.
Speaker C:So bit of a wild card because I haven't seen it.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:Is this the first time you've recommended a film you haven't seen?
Speaker C:Yeah, quite possibly, yeah.
Speaker C:Because I was basically on Netflix the other day putting stuff on the list like, oh, I need to see that, I need to see that.
Speaker C:And I thought, well, why not just pick one of these for my choice?
Speaker C:And then if it's really bad, then I only get slightly shamed.
Speaker B:It was a punt.
Speaker C:Yeah, it was a punt.
Speaker C:So I've heard good things, though.
Speaker C:I've heard good things.
Speaker C:I can never say his first name, but.
Speaker C:Guaro del Toro.
Speaker A:Guillermo del Toro.
Speaker C:Thank you.
Speaker C:Name pronouncing is not my thing, but del Toro has done a new version of Frankenstein and it's on Netflix and apparently it's quite good.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:And I put it on my list and I was like, you know what?
Speaker C:That's probably a good one for.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Literally.
Speaker C:End of November, maybe.
Speaker C:Think it had, like, a limited release in cinemas, so maybe just a few weekends.
Speaker C:They put it on on certain screens and it was a Netflix film, so obviously Netflix.
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker A:It's like a fairy tale director.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like Hellboy, but he did Pan's Labyrinth and he does some.
Speaker A:Really.
Speaker A:He's interested in horror underbellies or like the myth of who knows?
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker C:Well, from.
Speaker C:Whatever.
Speaker C:This is quite visually stunning and it's meant to be good.
Speaker C:So I thought, you know what?
Speaker C:Throw it in, because I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker C:Let's give that a watch.
Speaker C:Because the other films I was going to throw at you weren't available on streaming, and then that one came up.
Speaker C:So let's try it.
Speaker C:Let's see what it's like.
Speaker C:I like some of his other films of horror, I guess, so.
Speaker C:Horror fantasy, probably.
Speaker C:I guess it's based on the original book.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker C:It's got Oscar Isaac in it and quite a good cast, but I can't remember who else it was, but I remember someone saying it was a good cast and it was good film.
Speaker C:So try it and we'll nutshell it.
Speaker B: Next week's movie is the: Speaker B:Guillemo del Toro.
Speaker A:Now you guys are saying it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Am I saying it wrong?
Speaker C:You're definitely saying it better than I am.
Speaker B: Frankenstein: Speaker B:Okay, thanks for listening, guys.
Speaker B:We really do appreciate you taking time to spend some time with us.
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Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker B:So this episode is officially over.
Speaker B:This is Mark saying goodbye.
Speaker A:He's down saying goodbye for now.
Speaker C:You have no style or sense of fashion.
Speaker C:No, no, that wasn't a question.
Speaker A:That's actually really good.
