Disclosure Day — has Spielberg still got it?

Darren: 00:00:00

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That's all I'm saying.

Darren: 00:00:05

Most excellent, Paul.

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Most excellent.

Marc: 00:00:07

Steering it back into a nutshell of this movie.

Paul: 00:00:09

What? No, we're totally on point.

Darren: 00:00:11

And it's an audio podcast. Its only role is to get me into a relationship.

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We're working on that.

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I'm worried that when he gets into said relationship, we'll disappear and we'll never see him again.

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Hello and welcome to Movies in a Nutshell with me, Marc Farquhar, myself, Darren.

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Horne, and I, Paul Day.

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So grab some popcorn and let's crack open this week's movie. Here we are again. This time, Disclosure Day.

Paul: 00:01:06

Oh, this was our cinema outing.

Marc: 00:01:09

So thankfully some people did show up and came with us.

Darren: 00:01:11

Yeah, they always show up.

Marc: 00:01:14

No, it's going good. It's going good. We get some good numbers and some people that we didn't know. Well, I didn't know some of the people.

Unfortunately, I didn't get to talk to everybody, so I apologize who were listening. And you think he's real knobhead. Like, he didn't. He's unsociable.

Paul: 00:01:25

That's what people were saying.

Darren: 00:01:26

Yeah, they say about me. Who's the anxious guy sweating in the corner? He's really chatty on. On this podcast. This is an alter ego. This isn't me.

Paul: 00:01:37

And I, you know, I get similar anxiety as well, but, you know, work through it.

Marc: 00:01:42

But it was fine.

Paul: 00:01:43

What a good idea, Mark. Let's take our anxious selves to meet all these people. But, yeah, everyone was really friendly.

Marc: 00:01:48

Yeah, it was good. It was a good night. We had a good time.

We went for a few drinks to our local Wetherspoons and then we went to our local cinema, which is the Alhambra. The guys were nice enough to book up some seats for us, and then we all bought sweets and drinks and.

Paul: 00:02:01

Sat on the back rows pretty much.

Marc: 00:02:02

Yeah. To see Disclosure Day. So that's Steven Spielberg's latest movie. So we're in part one, which is the nutshell where we'll break the movie down.

Spoiler Free to help you decide if it's your kind of movie and if it's worth your time and if it's probably still in the cinema when this comes out. So decide whether you want to go and see it or not. We've only just seen this yesterday.

Yeah, the Cinema Social was last night, so it's still fresh in the memories. We haven't really had time to make many notes. So how do we.

Darren: 00:02:23

Zero notes.

Paul: 00:02:24

We have no notes.

Marc: 00:02:25

No notes. I've got some. But how do we break this down.

Darren: 00:02:28

As a nutshell for people in a world where a government official breaks away with secrets that aliens exist and he wants to disclose that information.

Paul: 00:02:38

I see what they did.

Marc: 00:02:40

Yeah.

Darren: 00:02:41

And that's really it.

Paul: 00:02:42

It's almost the X Files meets War of the Worlds somewhere in the mix with a bit of AI thrown in.

Marc: 00:02:49

It's also kind of a dual story. There's that, but there's also individuals who have been sort of had some contact with aliens. And it's about.

There's two stories kind of meet in the middle.

Paul: 00:02:56

And it's a mystery when the film starts up. It's very much a mystery. Obviously we have to be very careful in this sp spoiler free zone.

But it starts as a mystery and then you find out more about Unravels.

Marc: 00:03:06

As it goes along.

Paul: 00:03:06

But it's essentially a chase movie against said government officials that Darren just said.

Marc: 00:03:11

What other movies did it remind you of those parts of? It reminds me of Enemy the State.

Darren: 00:03:14

Yeah, definitely Enemy of the State, where.

Marc: 00:03:16

He's got information and it's like people want that information. It's about power.

Darren: 00:03:19

Contact.

Marc: 00:03:20

Contact. Okay.

Darren: 00:03:20

I've not seen that possibly Arrival. Although Arrival has a very different mood.

Marc: 00:03:25

Okay. There was part of this that gave me Leave the world behind, you know, when the deers were coming. Yeah, there was definitely part of that.

Darren: 00:03:30

Also, got to talk about E.T. And Close Encounters of the Third Kind, which are Spielberg movies.

Marc: 00:03:35

Okay, elaborate.

Darren: 00:03:37

They. Well, E.T. Is about an alien. What does Aliens Closer Count as? Of the Third Kind is about an alien spaceship.

Marc: 00:03:45

I got that. I just thought there was something more that you meant. No, no, just links to those movies.

Darren: 00:03:50

Like, it's almost like Spielberg is often referencing himself because there's entire scenes as well, which are like, oh, this is Indiana Jones.

Marc: 00:03:57

All right, got you. Okay.

Paul: 00:03:59

And for me, it just felt like a lot of X Files episode because I've literally just finished watching them not long ago. So for me, it felt like this could be an X Files episode.

Darren: 00:04:07

Also. That movie is it don't look up.

Paul: 00:04:10

Yes, with Leonardo DiCaprio.

Darren: 00:04:11

Same kind of energy as that.

Marc: 00:04:12

What about Men in Black?

Paul: 00:04:13

Not a comedy, but yeah, themes of that many.

Darren: 00:04:16

Black's a bit more childish and a bit more cartoony.

Marc: 00:04:19

That's more about us living with aliens. Like well known. I tried to sum it up. So I've written.

It's a science fiction thriller about a whistleblower who comes into possession of information that could change humanity forever.

Darren: 00:04:29

Science fiction. Isn't America just dropping facts that aliens exist right now? Like don't look at the Epstein files. Aliens exist. This is potentially science fact.

Paul: 00:04:42

Well, the bit I don't get is because someone was asking about this the other day. Haven't we said publicly now in courts and whatever.

Oh yeah, there was files on Roswell, there were aliens, there were all this stuff and the whole world went, yeah.

Darren: 00:04:55

Because I asked my students this. I was saying, you know, what do you think if there's aliens that exist?

You know, files have been released, videos being released and they're like, well, you don't know if that's true. But also is that going to help me get a job? Is that going to help me buy a house? Is that going to keep it a very surface level?

It's like how, how is that going to impact my life if whether they exist or not? Are they knocking on my door trying to an alien religion?

Marc: 00:05:17

They could come and try and take.

Darren: 00:05:18

Over the planet, but please do because we're making a fuck up of it.

Paul: 00:05:22

Yeah. If you're listening to our podcast out there on another world, what Darren just.

Darren: 00:05:25

Said, we are definitely transmitting. I reckon we go to some kind of alien booster and we're kind of fired back to an alien planet and they're listening to us laughing.

Paul: 00:05:33

Do you think they're like starting to get our accents now?

Darren: 00:05:36

Yeah, I think it's kind of like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, basically.

Paul: 00:05:39

Yes. Nice.

Darren: 00:05:39

We will be. And like a category in Hitchhiker's Guardian Galaxy.

Paul: 00:05:44

Or is it going to be like Bill and Ted where their music is the thing that civilization.

Darren: 00:05:49

We're bringing peace to the galaxy through this podcast.

Paul: 00:05:53

That's all I'm saying.

Darren: 00:05:54

Most excellent pool.

Paul: 00:05:56

Most excellent.

Marc: 00:05:56

Steering it back into a nutshell of this movie.

Paul: 00:05:58

What? No, it's totally on point.

Darren: 00:06:00

Government official breaks away and the government officials try and stop him and it's. Yeah.

Marc: 00:06:06

What have you got in this movie? Conspiracies, government cover ups, strange phenomena, global uncertainty and a race to uncover the truth before it's too late.

Paul: 00:06:12

And a bit of psychedelic power stuff going on as well.

Darren: 00:06:16

Where are you talking? What? What? Psych.

Paul: 00:06:17

Not psychedelic. What's psychic? Psychic ability sort of stuff.

Marc: 00:06:20

All right, yeah.

Paul: 00:06:21

What am I saying? Psychedelic. That's a whole different movie.

Marc: 00:06:25

Yes, that's aliens on drugs.

Paul: 00:06:26

Maybe I had too many wine gums. Maybe that's what it was.

Darren: 00:06:28

Nice.

Marc: 00:06:29

So if this was like on streaming now, what kind of watch would you say it was?

Darren: 00:06:32

This is a family watch, I reckon. I think you could absolutely pull the kids together and just be like.

Whether they're teenage, where they're like, like 7, 8 years old or teenagers, I think your grandma, parents, if they're around, you could put them all together and be like, hey, that's this.

And I think it would be interesting having the different generations go down because I saw this dialogue online a little bit saying that the boomer generation think that this type of stuff will impact the population, that people will respond and be like, well, we couldn't possibly release this information. What will.

Marc: 00:07:01

People couldn't handle it.

Darren: 00:07:02

And like, you know, Gen Z, you don't give a crap.

Marc: 00:07:05

Is that what you just proved by telling them asking that question?

Darren: 00:07:08

Yeah, exactly. Whatever.

Paul: 00:07:10

Whereas us in the 90s were very much like, imagine, imagine. I mean, independence days in the cinema. Many blacks in the cinema. Yeah, that was all within a few years. Anyway, this day.

And we're all like conspiracies and X Files and all this. And now they finally got to the point where they released them and said, it's all real. And we went, yeah, all right.

Darren: 00:07:27

And Gen X. We're Gen X. We don't care either. And it's our whole thing, isn't it?

Paul: 00:07:31

I'm a millennial.

Darren: 00:07:32

I think we were taught. Oh dear. We were talking about this around like fairy rings or something or portals.

And it's like if we see one, people are jumping through them now or wanting to check out if a weird Stargate thing opened in the room. An awful lot of us are just be like, ah, can it be any worse than this?

Paul: 00:07:47

Yeah, let's go through it.

Marc: 00:07:48

If you say family, It's a. It's a 12A, which is not. Not too bad.

Darren: 00:07:51

Yeah, yeah, 12A is kind of weird. I mean, I can remember the scenes that they think would be parental advisory. Actually, I think that's fair.

I probably wouldn't want my daughter to watch a couple of scenes in this. I think it depends on the kid.

You know, I know people who've got 10 year olds who've been watching freaking crazy like Jaws, pretty gruesome yeah, For.

Marc: 00:08:08

Meats, I've got Close Encounters of the Third Kind meets. Anyway, State.

Darren: 00:08:10

Yes, that's very correct.

Marc: 00:08:12

Thank you.

Paul: 00:08:12

You are correct.

Marc: 00:08:14

Anything else on the nutshell?

Paul: 00:08:15

I don't think so because a lot of it is mystery, isn'?

Marc: 00:08:18

Yep.

Darren: 00:08:18

Emily Blunt, who we like a lot is also got Kurt Russell's son, also known as Wyatt Russell.

Marc: 00:08:24

Oh, I did not know that.

Darren: 00:08:24

Yes.

Paul: 00:08:25

He was a guy with the beard,.

Darren: 00:08:26

Kind of long hair and then quite a few kind of semi unknown actors who were doing a face solid job.

Paul: 00:08:30

Oh, and Colin Firth.

Darren: 00:08:32

Oh, Colin Firth also. Yes, absolutely. Bringing me to life as. How sexy is he right now playing.

Paul: 00:08:39

A baddie and inverted villain.

Darren: 00:08:41

Yeah, it's just like Jaws when he goes back to that sort of sitting.

Marc: 00:08:44

With a full on like the facial.

Darren: 00:08:46

How would you reckon he is?

Marc: 00:08:47

Yeah, he must be in his 60s.

Paul: 00:08:48

I think he's 60s.

Darren: 00:08:49

If I can look like Colin Firth in this movie in my 60s, it made me want to grow my beard out of it. But I know he's got a makeup artist and like a head. I need. I need to.

Marc: 00:08:57

Maintenance, isn't it? When you get it going right, we.

Darren: 00:08:59

Need to make this, make money so I can have a stylist and I can look as fit as Colin for an audio podcast.

Paul: 00:09:05

It's an audio podcast that's saving the planet peace. I think we've established.

Darren: 00:09:09

And it's an audio podcast. Its only role is to get me into a relationship.

Marc: 00:09:14

We're working on that.

Paul: 00:09:14

I'm worried that when he gets into said relationship, we'll disappear.

Marc: 00:09:17

Yeah, we'll never see him again, but that's. We'll do bonus episodes. Odds on relationships, I think.

Darren: 00:09:21

Yeah, yeah, I'm excellent at that. The Single Divorcee. I can give you all the advice.

Marc: 00:09:27

Okay. I think. Anything else to add before we move on?

Darren: 00:09:29

No, I don't think so.

Marc: 00:09:30

That takes us on to part two. The unboxing in part two. Spoiler territory ahead.

If you haven't seen this movie and you feel like you might want to now after part one, we recommend you pause it, go watch it and come back. Currently, if you listen to it as this comes out, it's still in the cinema. So you could go to watch it and then come back.

From this point forward, there will definitely be spoilers. Coming up, we have what did you miss? Where we reveal things you may have missed even if you've seen the movie before.

Paul has his facts of the day and then we round off with Hate it or Rate it where we each give a brief Opinion score out of 10. And we see where it lands on our Legend League. And this time we'll also hear from some of the people who are with us on the social. The cinema social.

Marc: 00:10:06

Right.

Marc: 00:10:06

What did you miss, Darren? Have you got anything on this one?

Darren: 00:10:09

I mean, there's stuff you can point out which maybe, like, plot holes or elements are a little bit ludicrous. Not that means it's a bad movie. It's just kind of fun to point out silly things.

One thing that I realized a little bit to a little bit of research I did is the house. There's a whole thing at the beginning where she's just decorated the bedroom and then she wants to move again.

And it's this feeling that she keeps moving from place to place and Wyatt is getting pissed at it. But there was some evidence online I saw that she keeps accidentally turning the houses into a childhood house.

So the wallpaper she'd put up had butterflies on it, which is. There was butterflies in a childhood room.

So she's kind of locked in this loop where she's trying to go back to the childhood event which triggered this movie kind of decades later.

And then she's realizing it's almost like she's getting too close to the trauma and then wants to bail, but she doesn't consciously realize she's doing it, which is actually a really deep kind of trauma response. Psychological.

Marc: 00:11:04

It's a deep layer to add to it. It is.

Darren: 00:11:06

Right. So I was quite impressed that the people who pointed out. Yeah, because that was quite subtle.

Paul: 00:11:13

And that's like them sowing the seeds early on for them. When you do get to that house, it's like, ah.

Of course, I obviously got the character wanting to move on and things, but I think I missed the whole thing. She was trying to recreate that house. But that makes absolute sense in the.

Darren: 00:11:24

And then it was also nice just to see this. I mean, it's convenient that the girl.

Marc: 00:11:29

That.

Darren: 00:11:29

What's the girl called? Who was kind of dating. Is it Josh? I haven't seen her in anything. Have you seen her in other stuff? Like Jane?

Paul: 00:11:35

She was called Jane. She's called Eve Hewson.

Marc: 00:11:38

Oh, you've Hewson. Yes. She's been in a British drama called Something about Sisters. The sisters thing I saw in a UK drama thing. She was very good in that.

Paul: 00:11:46

e was Marion in Robin Hood in: 2018

Darren: 00:11:50

can see that, actually. Wait,: 2018

Paul: 00:11:53

Yeah.

Darren: 00:11:53

Oh, there's so many Robin Hoods. I lose track.

Paul: 00:11:56

Tara Negaton.

Marc: 00:11:57

And let's just say I'm a huge fan of Eve Hewson.

Paul: 00:11:59

Oh, okay. A bit like the way I am with Miliotti.

Marc: 00:12:03

Yeah.

Paul: 00:12:03

Okay, I get it.

Darren: 00:12:04

Okay. So moving on. It was a little bit on the nose that, you know, she used to be a nun.

Marc: 00:12:11

That was weird. That was.

Darren: 00:12:12

But it was a good way of addressing. Because the whole thing about aliens is it may challenge religious beliefs. And I think that they dealt with that well in this. In terms of.

It was like, no, we are the supreme beings on Earth.

I have no idea what it says in Genesis, but that was kind of interesting to me because it feels like it's forcing everyone to address how they would deal with it. And I'm always curious if anyone's kind of deeply religious, what do they really think that we're the only beings in the universe? It's kind of big.

Renting a castle for your hamster to live in.

Marc: 00:12:42

Like, if it's in this massive universe, if it's possible for life to be on this planet, why isn't it possible for life to be on another planet?

Paul: 00:12:48

And we don't know everything. There could be all the things around. String theory, dimensions, all that kind of layers.

Darren: 00:12:53

Totally different.

Paul: 00:12:53

Yeah.

Darren: 00:12:54

Dimensions. I'm very sure that we've jumped timelines several times.

Marc: 00:12:58

One thing I picked up on is this isn't really like an alien invasion kind of movie. Like the marketing sells it as that, but it's more just about the truth.

Darren: 00:13:05

Yeah.

Marc: 00:13:06

The truth is of the truth. Or the height of the wanting to hold back the truth that was the aliens. Kind of felt like a vehicle for that.

Paul: 00:13:12

Yeah. Some people might be going into it thinking it's all about after the disclosure is made, but actually the lead up to the disclosure.

The whole film's the lead up to the disclosure.

Darren: 00:13:22

It's also about how we're just self destructive knobheads and we just go to war all the time and we're controlled. And that whole theme of is, can you be kind to each other, please? Like have empathy.

Marc: 00:13:32

That would what it would take an outsider to come down and go, guys,.

Darren: 00:13:34

What are you doing?

Marc: 00:13:35

What are you doing? I was thinking about this when we were watching it. Is this. Would you class this as a dual narrative?

Darren: 00:13:39

Not really.

Marc: 00:13:40

There was the whistleblower side of things.

Darren: 00:13:42

Yeah.

Marc: 00:13:42

But then there was also the two people who'd been like, like been touched by aliens who had been given these special powers.

Paul: 00:13:47

Abductee kind of finding each other.

Marc: 00:13:49

It kept flicking between the two and eventually it's came Together at the end.

Darren: 00:13:52

Yeah, it's kind of like a parallel narrative.

Marc: 00:13:54

That's it.

Darren: 00:13:55

Yeah, yeah, you could argue that. But also I like that whole. It's almost like an Adam and Eve myth. And you know, the Adam and Eve myth is in many.

They're called different things, but they're in multiple different kind of religions and myths.

But I like the fact that it was like a guy and a girl and it's like, okay, we picked this guy and a girl and they will be the ones who are the translators or the empathy machine or they can understand math and understand the universe, whatever. Which reminded me of the. Oh my God, why have I forgotten them? The.

Marc: 00:14:22

Because you're 50.

Darren: 00:14:23

Yeah, I'm not 50 yet. Reminded me of the key master in Ghostbusters. Key Master and the Gatekeeper.

Marc: 00:14:31

Oh yes.

Darren: 00:14:32

And I kind of like that energy in movies.

Paul: 00:14:34

Are you the key master?

Darren: 00:14:35

And it is about trying to get the Key Master and the Gatekeeper together. And in this it was trying to get the empathy machine and the matter with. Together.

Marc: 00:14:43

I did like how it skips the first contact element. Most Alien. Most movies build towards that.

Paul: 00:14:48

Yeah.

Marc: 00:14:49

But it was. It just got that out of the way. Like. Yeah, we've had aliens. It's more about knowing about that. It's the knowledge of the. What we know. Yeah.

That's quite different for an Alien movie.

Paul: 00:14:58

Someone actually said. I meant to say at the start. Nutshell. It reminded them a bit of. Is it. Which mountain? The. The Disney one.

I've only seen the newer one with the rock in it. Escape to which mountain or something. But that's basically this. There's two alien kids in that, isn't there? And there's sort of a few parallels.

Marc: 00:15:14

Maybe there the crux about the information, the truth. It's more about what can the. Can the Earth cope with knowing the truth or not?

Darren: 00:15:22

Yeah.

Marc: 00:15:22

Some people, half of it, half one side thinks yes they can. Let's get out there.

Darren: 00:15:26

They said no patronizing though, that these people look at ordinary people. I mean there's a quote in many black. Isn't there ways like a person is intelligent but people are stupid.

Paul: 00:15:36

Yeah, yeah.

Darren: 00:15:36

And I think, oh, this is just.

I have issues with Joe Rogan sometimes but he'll go on rants and be like another man or woman doesn't have the right to tell me what I can and cannot do. There's no like power dynamic there. You're not my parent.

Like we can be as self destructive or you know, take risks or be creative or do whatever as Long as we harm no others. It's weird when people say that. So for one person to be like, well, I can deal with this knowledge because I'm special.

But these people, the common people in Aldi, look at them, look at them pushing their children around in these push chairs.

Paul: 00:16:08

Apologies to Aldi. Other supermarkets are available.

Marc: 00:16:11

I love you, Aldi.

Darren: 00:16:13

Yeah, we do. But it's just like, it's like a snobbery. Like, oh, ordinary people can't deal with this knowledge. Go yourself.

Marc: 00:16:19

Or was it just a power, an ego trip for him? He wanted to control. He wanted to be the person who had the control.

Darren: 00:16:24

I don't know, it doesn't really go into it because obviously we.

We get the impression something happened to his wife and he's driven, but we don't really find out what that reasoning is and we don't really understand the reason why everyone decides they want to release the footage. Because it's like, oh, you know, and it's, you know, there's a torture, kind of a torture.

I mean, it's not a bad torture scene, but it's like, oh, you know, they abused the alien. Yeah, yeah. That's what shady government organizations do. They abuse aliens and they abuse people and apparently children.

We're finding out a lot these days. So. So what did you expect? You're working for a shady, shady government agency. Agency. It's like, so. Yeah, but we get whistleblowers like that, don't.

We've had them a lot in the past.

Paul: 00:17:08

Yeah, but that Men in Black bench scene that you quite. There's another bit in that which seems relevant as well, where Tommy Lee Jones is saying, however many years ago, everybody knew the world was flat.

And then, however many years ago everybody knew. And then he's like, and two minutes ago you thought we were alone on this planet or something. It's like, it's true information, isn't it?

Well, he says, imagine what we'll know tomorrow. And I always quite like that quote as well. Imagine what we'll know tomorrow. Because we think we know everything. But.

Darren: 00:17:34

Yeah, I just think it's like scientists going down to the depths of the ocean and they'll be like, oh, we found a new fish. I was, okay, cool. It's like we went to Mars and we found a new, like, reptile. Okay, cool. Like, well, people aren't going to be bothered.

Marc: 00:17:48

Yeah.

Darren: 00:17:48

And what. Okay, what do you. What can they.

Marc: 00:17:50

What.

Darren: 00:17:51

What's the fear here? Unless they are the alien from Alien.

Paul: 00:17:56

That's pretty bad.

Marc: 00:17:57

Scary.

Darren: 00:17:58

Yeah. Like the Predator won't bother us.

Paul: 00:18:00

So I suppose the government might bring in some kind of new tax on that somehow, I guess, you know, they seem like doing that on everything at least five times. You get taxed on the same money. Sorry, that's a different run.

Darren: 00:18:12

I also like movies. What's the Keanu Reeves one where he kind of comes to Earth and he's a big giant robot that.

Paul: 00:18:18

Oh, the. The Day the Earth is still. Yeah, I couldn't get into that film. I couldn't get into it.

Darren: 00:18:23

I watched it again within the last year, I think, and actually quite. I quite enjoyed it. But I. I do like that idea. I like the arrogance of. Because it's always a.

Well, I obviously were watching American movies, so of course it's the Americans who the aliens are coming to chat to. But I like the fact that he's just like, you're not the leaders of the Earth. I'm going to go into the UN Council and I'm going to talk to them then.

And the fact that he said he's here to save the Earth, not humanity, because it's like the Matrix says, we're. We're a virus.

Marc: 00:18:50

Yeah. I've picked up. Has this movie got to the title got two meanings. So there's the disclosure of the existence of extraterrestrial life on Earth.

But then there's also there was people facing their own disclosures. Like, she was talking to them, making them face things. She was saying, you know, you've been worried about this.

Just go and do it, or they will like that. And making them have their own sort of disclosure in their. In their mind.

Darren: 00:19:11

I think that would be truer if she was doing it kind of for justice. It was like, you know, I know what you did. You should hand yourself in.

Marc: 00:19:18

Like.

Marc: 00:19:19

But it's kind of like it seemed just like a. Like, there's the global disclosure, but then there's like, that she was dealing with a personal disclosure between these people.

Paul: 00:19:26

Like, you say she's doing it to escape, get out the way, get out the ticket.

Darren: 00:19:30

Not all the time. Sometimes she's being kind.

Paul: 00:19:32

Yeah. And I think the more it goes on, the more it's about being kind when she discovers her.

I did find it interesting, though, how for her, they mapped out her house to get her to this place, whereas for the guy, they were just like, yeah, just hold her hand. And then it's like, you'll have the same thing anyway through her experience, because maybe she had the more traumatic one or something.

Darren: 00:19:54

I also think there's an element of. I think it's like the feminine energy that gives birth to the universe. If there's a God, I think that's a feminine thing.

And I think it works better when it's that way.

Paul: 00:20:04

So that makes sense as to why they did it for her.

Darren: 00:20:07

Yeah. She'd be the lead and she's the empathy. Whereas he's almost like the technician or the engineer.

Paul: 00:20:12

That's right. Yeah. Yeah.

Darren: 00:20:13

Who builds it.

Paul: 00:20:15

Yeah.

Marc: 00:20:15

What we got. What we're saying about outside is looking at ugly Earth, which kind of. Obviously, these aliens obviously have been the term.

The phrase listen kept coming up, didn't it? Yeah, listen. And that was what the movie ended on, it. I wonder if that's them saying that we should be listening. Listening to each each other.

Darren: 00:20:28

Yeah, for sure. Because that's almost the definition.

Marc: 00:20:31

That's their, like, overall view. That's the conclusion, you guys.

Paul: 00:20:34

Yeah. The underlying. It was the empathy, wasn't it? That was the underlying. If we can all understand each other better, then we're gonna have a better.

Marc: 00:20:40

A lot of people talk, but they don't always listen.

Darren: 00:20:41

Most people never listen.

Marc: 00:20:43

Yeah.

Darren: 00:20:43

And. And because they're all bothered at their.

Marc: 00:20:45

Own agenda or their own whatever priorities,.

Darren: 00:20:47

Waiting for their turn to speak.

Marc: 00:20:49

On the whole, there's an empathy as well. Putting yourself in other people's places.

Darren: 00:20:53

Yeah.

And it feels like, particularly with the rise of the far right and even, like, you know, the far left are kind of being a bit out there as well, is that people are just not realizing it's other human beings who need to be looked after. Whether it's, you know, refugees or. I mean, there's horrendous stuff going on in Ireland right now, which I didn't expect. It's just.

It all goes back to the Hunger Games. Remember who the real enemy is?

Marc: 00:21:16

Because also, if you remember when they were doing the Interrupt, the broadcasts, they were. The main story was World War iii.

Darren: 00:21:22

Yeah, it was.

Marc: 00:21:22

So it's almost like the world was kind of falling apart in the background while these aliens were coming. Just. Guys just listen to each other.

Paul: 00:21:28

And there's only really a couple of references to that. There's a scene where there's a bit of panic going on at a petrol station or something. And there's a bit of a scene there.

And then there's just a few throwaway lines around. Oh, well, we can't turn off this broadcast because we've got our World War three broadcast over here. So it isn't. Isn't that prominent in it.

Marc: 00:21:43

We're all just making too much noise as well.

Darren: 00:21:45

And no one is evil. I'm sure there are the equivalent of like psychopaths or something. But I don't think anyone's evil when they're born.

Everyone was one at some point in queue. So it's the programming that you've had.

Marc: 00:21:56

Yeah.

Darren: 00:21:57

You know, so I don't know it's. I think it's a movie that can hold repeat viewing though to pick up on things like that in the background.

Marc: 00:22:03

Yeah, it'll be more. Yeah. I'm sure if people listen to this. If you've. If this.

If you listen to this in like years time and you've seen it loads of times and let us know if there's anything else if we've missed because we're just doing this the day after we've watched it just once.

Paul: 00:22:14

And more importantly, if you are listening from another planet, you know, and you want to make first contact through us, that's fine. Mark will figure out some kind of bonus episode content, I'm sure where we could wedge that in.

Darren: 00:22:25

But to appear in the form of an animal. So we're calm but not a shitty CGI animal like a real animal. I would like a raven. That's how you announce your. Or cat.

Marc: 00:22:36

Anything else on what do you miss?

Darren: 00:22:37

Depends if you want it. Because we can kind of start verging into what we think. But it doesn't necessarily impact whether you enjoyed the film or not.

But that government agency where the most incompetent government agency.

Marc: 00:22:48

Yes.

Marc: 00:22:48

They were fucking useless.

Darren: 00:22:50

And it's almost like there's a bit where the intentional.

Marc: 00:22:53

Not just to show. They just keep tripping each other like there was. They were just. You just couldn't do their job.

Darren: 00:23:00

Exactly. When the guy was the guy's name. Was it Josh or something?

Paul: 00:23:02

The main guy?

Darren: 00:23:03

Yeah.

Paul: 00:23:03

Yeah, I think so.

Darren: 00:23:06

He's clearly told don't go back to the house. And here's information that I can't possibly know so you know that I'm right. He's like, yeah, I'll go back to the house.

Then he hides behind a fence like with a tiny bit of bush on it, which any. Not even you wouldn't even have to be an agent to look over your shoulder if you're.

Marc: 00:23:24

Who's that over there?

Darren: 00:23:25

There's nothing going on. You look over around and it felt like someone had done location scouting in the summer and that bush was full.

Marc: 00:23:31

Yeah.

Darren: 00:23:31

And they were like this will be freaking amazing. And then they came back in autumn.

Paul: 00:23:37

But Spielberg does A hell of a cool crane shot around him doing that.

Marc: 00:23:41

So there was some cool.

Paul: 00:23:42

Yeah, I'll let him off. Sorry. The actor's called Josh O'. Connor. The character's called Dr. Daniel Kellner.

Marc: 00:23:48

I kept saying that name over and over again. The boyfriend was like, oh, that him again. Die.

Darren: 00:23:52

Yeah, that was good. And then there's a bit where they kind of drive off of a cliff and get out before it goes off a cliff.

Marc: 00:23:58

Even agents come up and go, oh, they've gone off the cliff. There's no way they could have possibly got out before it went over the cliff. They must be dead.

Paul: 00:24:05

It's almost Austin Powers, like, in that bit, isn't it?

Darren: 00:24:07

And there. Oh, no, there's skid marks here where they broke, so they won't go off the cliff. And then there's. It starts to get like, are you.

Marc: 00:24:14

There's no investigation there. Oh, they're dead. Let's go.

Paul: 00:24:17

That's a different government organization that investigates the traffic accidents.

Darren: 00:24:20

And how haven't they got helicopters?

Marc: 00:24:22

Us? Oh, drones.

Darren: 00:24:23

Yes, drones. Exactly. Yeah. Lame. Or even, wasn't it a government car? Surely they were tracking it.

Marc: 00:24:29

Yeah.

Darren: 00:24:29

As well.

Paul: 00:24:29

Yeah, we're really in the nutshell now.

Darren: 00:24:31

And then there's the bit where all the good guys are, like, invisible, and then the bad guys are like, oh, we can see him in infrared. Something's not right. No, no, it's not that. It's not right.

They're clearly stood there and you can't see them because of some kind of alien technology. So what you do is you point your machine guns at them. Them. And you say, turn that off or I'm going to open fire.

And if they don't do that, you open fire.

Paul: 00:24:53

No, no, no. You run at them instead and fly. Crash into the building to the house and. And sort of.

Darren: 00:25:00

Yeah. And then you see your friends do that and they're like, I've got a cool plan.

Marc: 00:25:04

Why don't we all do that as well? That looks like it didn't hurt at all.

Darren: 00:25:07

It's like, oh, you sweet summer children. Go back to basic training.

Paul: 00:25:12

You may have missed that, but. But you probably won't. The government agency are not.

Marc: 00:25:16

You'll definitely notice it now we've said it if you watch it.

Darren: 00:25:18

But that's all right. Sadly, I don't think we've got even an unreliable narrator, because that would be fun.

Paul: 00:25:23

No, no.

Darren: 00:25:24

These government agents ran in. Yeah. Is that what happened? Really?

Marc: 00:25:28

Okay, thank you, gentlemen. That takes us perfectly into Paul's Facts of the Day.

Darren: 00:25:34

Hit me up, Paul, what you got?

Paul: 00:25:35

Let's have a look here. This is the 21st collaboration between Spielberg and cinematographer Janus Kaminski.

t one was Schindler's List in: 1993

Darren: 00:25:47

Oh, that's two very different movies.

Paul: 00:25:49

Yeah, isn't it?

Marc: 00:25:50

But also John Williams. How many times has he.

Paul: 00:25:52

Well, this is true a lot. I don't think I've said the number,.

Marc: 00:25:56

But he's like his guy.

Paul: 00:25:57

He's his guy. And John Williams tried to retire. So the next fact is literally this.

When Steven Spielberg approached John Williams to provide the score, Williams first suggested four of the composers. Like, you know, Steven, there's all these other people could take the job.

Because he'd retired from film scoring, Spielberg insisted William score the film and he finally agreed. So he. He tried to get out and they pulled him back in.

Darren: 00:26:19

Yeah.

Paul: 00:26:20

So because John is in his 90s now. He's old.

Marc: 00:26:23

Yeah.

Paul: 00:26:24

And, yeah, I mean, he's still doing well for being in his 90s.

Darren: 00:26:27

He's a Wolverine of the composer world.

Marc: 00:26:29

Yes.

Darren: 00:26:30

He is gonna be doing it till he's 90.

Marc: 00:26:32

Well, how. Alan Silvestri must be a fair age as well.

Paul: 00:26:34

He'll be a little bit younger, but yeah, he'll be getting up there.

Darren: 00:26:37

What's the guy did? Mandalorians stuff?

Paul: 00:26:39

Oh, he's a young guy.

Darren: 00:26:40

He's a young Dutch guy. What's his name?

Paul: 00:26:42

Ludwigs. I'm making that up. It's like a. I think he's.

Darren: 00:26:47

He's on the rise. Right. He works a lot with the guy. Did like Black Panther and the Sinners.

Paul: 00:26:51

Ryan. Ryan.

Darren: 00:26:52

Yeah, Ryan Cougar.

Paul: 00:26:54

That's him.

Darren: 00:26:54

Yeah, he works with him a lot.

Paul: 00:26:55

Yeah.

Marc: 00:26:56

So.

Paul: 00:26:56

But it's going to be a sad day when we lose John Williams because he's done so much. Amazing.

Darren: 00:27:00

Have you ever seen a John Williams by a candlelight in a cathedral or anything?

Paul: 00:27:03

Yes.

Darren: 00:27:04

Yes. Was it good?

Paul: 00:27:05

Yes.

Darren: 00:27:05

Don't know what answer I expected.

Paul: 00:27:07

I don't know.

Marc: 00:27:07

I don't think.

Paul: 00:27:08

Yeah, it was terrible. No, it was. It wasn't a candlelight. When I went to.

Marc: 00:27:12

Oh, I've seen it on tv. I've not. I've not been to one.

Paul: 00:27:14

Oh, I went to one in Carlisle at the cathedral. It wasn't candlelight, but it was like an orchestra. And they did John Williams and Hans Zimmer. That was the two that they did.

Marc: 00:27:22

Nice.

Paul: 00:27:22

And they did all the main scores you'd expect from Hans Zimmer and John Williams.

Marc: 00:27:26

I've seen the John Williams. I think it was on Prime. John Williams, like a 4K concert with him.

Paul: 00:27:32

I've got that on Blu ray. I know you'd be surprised to hear that.

Marc: 00:27:34

I'm not surprised at all. That was really cool.

Paul: 00:27:36

Yeah.

Marc: 00:27:37

Sky Arts or something. It was.

Darren: 00:27:38

That'd be a cool date to be like, hey, I'm just gonna go watch John Williams kind of.

Marc: 00:27:42

And if they'd say, john who you got this relationship is over.

Paul: 00:27:45

Yeah, that's how I'd be working, I think, like, no, we're done. We're done. John who.

Marc: 00:27:49

Out.

Paul: 00:27:49

Get out. That's. We're done. But, yeah, no, it was impressive.

And obviously to hear a live orchestra play even stuff like Jurassic park, the theme tune you like, just chills. So, yeah, he was back. Pulled out of. Pulled out of retirement once again.

How many times Stephen will do this Will probably just as long as he possibly can, I imagine. Oh, there we go. I've got the number for you.

irst was Sugarland Express in: 1974

Darren: 00:28:18

50, Wow.

Marc: 00:28:19

Yeah, wow, indeed.

Paul: 00:28:20

Cool. So screenwriter David Copp.

Darren: 00:28:23

Dun, dun, dun.

Paul: 00:28:25

He works with. I like. I like the drama build. He works with Spielberg a lot. And he wrote 42 drafts of the script. This is the most ever in his.

Darren: 00:28:34

And what other films has he done, Paul?

Paul: 00:28:36

Do you want to know?

Darren: 00:28:38

I'm aware of some of them.

Paul: 00:28:39

I'm gonna press the button. Let's go there. Jurassic Park.

Darren: 00:28:42

The original or the most recent one?

Paul: 00:28:44

Okay, not the original one. Stir of Echoes, Mission Impossible.

Darren: 00:28:47

Oh, that's not bad.

Paul: 00:28:49

Oh, dear.

Darren: 00:28:50

Yes, I saw the oh dear ones.

Paul: 00:28:53

He did work on the latest Jurassic Park Rebirth. Yeah.

Darren: 00:28:55

Didn't he do one of the Da Vinci Codes?

Paul: 00:28:57

He did the Dial of Destiny.

Darren: 00:28:59

Oh, the end of Jones.

Paul: 00:29:02

Oh, no, I really did not enjoy. Oh, the Mummy.

Darren: 00:29:08

The Tom Cruise one.

Paul: 00:29:09

The Tom Cruise one. I mean, I don't hate some of these films as much as other people. I do with Dial of Destiny, but that's another day. Inferno. That again.

Darren: 00:29:18

That's a. I mean, just because he wrote the script doesn't mean it wasn't a panic room.

Paul: 00:29:23

He worked on Panic Room.

Darren: 00:29:24

That's a good movie.

Paul: 00:29:24

Yeah, lots of other ones. He works for Spielberg quite a lot. In preparation for her role, lead actress Emily Blunt. Ah, lovely Emily Blunt.

Over many months, learned the language of both Russian and Korean so as to be able to speak these.

Darren: 00:29:36

She was legit good at that.

Marc: 00:29:38

That was really Convincing as well. Yeah, it was.

Darren: 00:29:40

Did you feel that there was a couple of characters who could have easily been played by John Krasinski?

Paul: 00:29:44

Yes.

Darren: 00:29:44

Which is Emily Blunt's husband.

Paul: 00:29:46

I feel like they should have thrown him in just for the hell of it.

Darren: 00:29:48

Like, he could have been John.

Paul: 00:29:49

Take a day off. Jack Ryan shooting, pop in, do one of these roles.

Darren: 00:29:53

Yeah, it could have been the David Kellner guy or he could have been the Wire. I always want to say wire up. It's Wyatt Russell.

Paul: 00:30:00

Yeah. He could have played either of those probably, couldn't he? I mean, they're in the Quiet Place films together because he directed them, didn't he?

Darren: 00:30:05

So I get why they wouldn't want to do that.

Paul: 00:30:07

Yeah, there is that. Moreover, she collaborated with the director Steven Spielberg to create for the movie an extraterrestrial dialogue.

This featured humming, clicking sound. I'm making them up. But yeah, we had sort of rhythms. So she worked with Stephen on that one.

Over 300 LCD Plasma Screens were used in the Wardex headquarters communication room. You could probably look at that and think, oh, it's just a big green screen. But it wasn't. It was 300 screens. And the footage shown on them took.

Oh, you don't think of this bit. The footage shown on them screens took more than five months to create prior to principal photography and content for the.

Marc: 00:30:44

Screens and created their own original content on all those screens. Wow.

Paul: 00:30:49

And that took a lot of time. And then that was played live during the filming, so the cast could then naturally respond to the images.

Marc: 00:30:55

Impressive.

Paul: 00:30:55

Real time.

Marc: 00:30:56

I like little details like that. I like when they do attention to detail rather than just. Oh, just CGI it.

Paul: 00:31:00

Yeah, we'll just put it in after. Put a big green screen up. The NBC anchor during the disclosure broadcast is played by an actual real life television presenter.

This was former newscaster Courtney Grace.

Darren: 00:31:11

Who was. Which one was that?

Paul: 00:31:13

I don't know, because I'm thinking it's the one who was getting all emotional at the end.

Marc: 00:31:17

I think that was her. I think that was her.

Paul: 00:31:18

That was the NBC anchor, wasn't it?

Marc: 00:31:19

Yes.

Paul: 00:31:20

Oh, I'm just getting all emotional.

Darren: 00:31:22

Unless it was the lady who was.

Paul: 00:31:23

In pink who was potentially.

Darren: 00:31:25

She's like, get out of my seat. I mean, Blunt's gonna take this.

Paul: 00:31:28

Oh, no, I think it wasn't. I think it was the one who was actually.

Marc: 00:31:31

I actually think those two were both real. Real TV anchors. Well, I'm sure I recognize them, potentially. Unless they're just actors from a film that recognize. But I'm pretty sure they are.

Paul: 00:31:39

o months during the summer of: 2023

There's quite a few from a new film to be honest. Actress Emily Blunt actively campaigned against the use of AI artificial intelligence for the film's non human linguistic transitions.

Blunt said she was terrified of AI and determined to deliver a strictly human vocal performance. So not only did she work with Steven Spielberg to come up with the clicks and everything, she didn't want AI.

Darren: 00:32:10

Because she's quite against actively campaigned. So she did some marketing campaign. She just said, Stephen, I'm not using.

Marc: 00:32:19

AI that's actively campaigning.

Darren: 00:32:21

Yeah, right. Okay, I'm gonna. Yeah. Jesus.

Paul: 00:32:23

I'm pretty sure she said it in interviews as well. She's all against AI as well.

Darren: 00:32:26

Yeah, but that's not an active campaign.

Paul: 00:32:28

Well, that's what this Fact says on IMDb and who are we to argue?

Marc: 00:32:32

One of these days he's going to shoot you in the head because you're. And you're just a messenger. Yeah. What are you talking about?

Paul: 00:32:38

Yeah, that's done accordingly.

Darren: 00:32:41

Why would Russia do this?

Paul: 00:32:44

We're moving on in case them ideas. The marketing costs for this film have been estimated at being how many play that game. Oh, why are you so good at this game?

Darren: 00:32:53

Because it was, it was. It's about 50% of his budget, wasn't it? Isn't it? Okay, 80 million was about 160 million budget.

Paul: 00:33:01

Budget was. That was about 150 million.

Marc: 00:33:04

Yeah.

Darren: 00:33:04

So about 50.

Paul: 00:33:05

Yeah. So that's a good call. There you go. There's some facts.

Marc: 00:33:08

Cool. Thank you very much.

Darren: 00:33:09

Facts of the day.

Marc: 00:33:12

He needs his own theme tune, doesn't he? I like a jingle that takes us into hate it or rate it.

What do we think first of all, should we see what some of our fellow moviegoers at the Cinema Social.

Darren: 00:33:23

No, we're the pros. No.

Marc: 00:33:26

Do you want to do us?

Paul: 00:33:27

Let's do us first.

Marc: 00:33:27

Should we do us first? I don't mind if you want to do us first.

Paul: 00:33:29

Oh, I don't want what they say to check what I'm going to say.

Marc: 00:33:32

All right, that's fine. We'll do us first. Okay. I'm going to go to you, Paul.

Paul: 00:33:36

Okay. I have mixed feelings. I feel it was a mixed bag. I love a Spielberg film and I like.

I've even defended Spielberg films that people don't Particularly like. Like AI is a bit all over the place because it's like half Spielberg, half Stanley Kubrick. Gets really smolchy at the end.

And even there I'm like, I'm going with it. It's fine. So more times out of 10 than whatever. I'm with Spielberg all the way.

Darren: 00:34:00

And I'm like, yes, west side Story.

Paul: 00:34:02

Didn't mind it. Haven't seen the original though. Need to watch the original. I know I need to watch the original. I've thrifted it. It's on the pile. I'll get there.

So didn't mind it because the first time I've kind of seen it and I like some of the stuff he did. But again, I know that had lots of backlash and whatever. This one felt a mixed bag. I was a bit disappointed, I'm gonna be honest. It felt a bit like.

Like I said in the opening nutshell, it just felt like a long episode of the X Files. That's not diminishing. The mixed bag for me is there's still that Steven Spielberg technique on display. There's still some cool scenes.

He has a few tension building things. He always has a good. Like there's a bit with the train where the. You know, we've not really seen that sort of thing before.

Darren: 00:34:39

Yeah, but that was almost like Austin Powers. The train is coming. Like two trains moving towards each other. Oh, no, the trains are coming 10 minutes later.

Paul: 00:34:50

There was a bit of that. But he knows how to film some of this stuff, doesn't he? Let's. And he knows how to tell a story. And some of the small sea stuff in this I do.

Did quite like. But I don't know, overall, it just felt a bit messier than I'm used to for Spielberg.

And I don't know, even the start of it, I was getting a bit frustrated where he was clearly trying to do this thing where we don't know what's going on, but something's going on and he's trading her for this and whatever. And I'm like, okay. And I thought there'd be more answers quicker. So you got to learn the characters better.

But you spent that much time going like, so what's going on again? Oh, there's a weird thingy and they're chasing them. And then Emily Blunt's character came in and you were kind of of. She was very charming.

So you were like taken in by her character a bit. And then that kind of went over there somewhere. And then like you said, the government agents are being A bit useless. I don't know.

Like, if I watch Ready Player One, I feel like I had super fun when I watched this. I felt like I was struggling to have fun because I was that busy trying to concentrate.

And then when it gets to the big reveal at the end, I'm like, okay. And the biggest thing is it's clearly written by someone from a different generation because.

Oh, no, we need to get it on broadcast, mainstream media.

Darren: 00:35:52

Yeah, well, YouTube.

Marc: 00:35:54

Exactly.

Paul: 00:35:55

I'm sure if you put it on YouTube and say it's official, it'll probably catch on, but no, no, we have to go to the corporate. So there's things like that.

Darren: 00:36:02

Is it bigger my film?

Paul: 00:36:03

Yeah. And there's things like that where you could pick holes in. But I'm like, I'll go with it. That's fine. So, mixed bag. That's probably our sir.

I enjoyed some of the action. Then there was other bits. I'm a bit like, come on, get there faster. And then they do, like, a cool camera trick and I'm like, that's cool.

But as a Spielberg one, I was a bit disappointed. So I'm gonna get it somewhere in the middle. Let's give it a 5.5. I guess if.

If I was going to watch another Spielberg, I'd go at Minority Report or Jurassic or one of the classics, obviously. Don't you say Jurassic's mid. Get out of here. Get out of here.

Marc: 00:36:33

Did you say 5.1?

Darren: 00:36:34

No, you say 5.5.

Paul: 00:36:35

I'm going 5.5. 5.

Marc: 00:36:36

5.

Darren: 00:36:37

5.

Paul: 00:36:37

I almost went five down the middle. But then there is some cool effects in there.

Darren: 00:36:41

There's some nice visual storytelling. There's a bit when she's reading someone's mind and you see through the window, her face. The reflection of her face is over the.

The head of the guy whose mind she's reading. So it's like she's in his head. Yeah, that was cool.

Paul: 00:36:53

There's lots of bits like that where I'm like, oh, yeah, that's a nice touch.

Darren: 00:36:55

There's a bit where she looks like an angel. She's got a halo or something. That was kind of cool.

Paul: 00:36:59

Yeah. There was nice touches throughout where I was sort of like, oh, yeah.

But then as a coherent sort of experience, I felt a bit like I'd been pushed about a bit. And, yeah, I couldn't quite. I didn't connect to the characters that much because you were that busy going, what's going on? Why is he doing that?

And I like Colin Firth and I like Helen Blunt and I'd never seen the main league guy, Josh before. I don't know why I'm trying to protect this, but, yeah, it was a mixed bag. There's some bits I enjoyed, there's some bits I'm like.

And I've seen some films recently where I came out and went, that was super fun. Or I came out and went, oh, that was super tense, this one. I was like, I don't know what that was. Yeah, I'm not quite sure.

Marc: 00:37:36

So 5.5.

Paul: 00:37:37

Yeah.

Marc: 00:37:37

Okay, I'll go next. Yeah, I'm similar. A bit of a mixed bag. This felt like two different stories of a similar theme forced together.

Paul: 00:37:44

Yeah.

Marc: 00:37:45

There was the whistleblowing aspect and then there was the alien side of it. Actual real aliens. And it. I just. It just a bit messy. It got a bit lost. I think I felt the whistleblower aspect could have carried the whole movie.

It could have been all about that. There's enough there like a flesh just on. Because that's. That's a big.

It feels very real right now that that could actually happen, like, anytime soon. It's. Obviously things are coming out, but, like, someone could reveal some real shocking things that we didn't know.

Paul: 00:38:09

Well, even like the chasey bits we. I didn't. I hadn't thought of any other state until you mentioned it tonight, but it did it so much better. Kind of the.

The propulsion of the chase and feeling.

Marc: 00:38:19

Like meaning to it.

Paul: 00:38:19

Is he gonna get caught in the helicopter? Yeah. Where were the helicopters? I never thought that. It's like, where are the helicopters? Come on. What kind of government agents?

Marc: 00:38:26

Yeah, so I did like the whistleblower aspect. I really. Because the first part was just about that. And then when Emily Blunts came out. I do like Emily Blunt. And I was like, oh, where we're going.

This. This is good. That bit. Just when you find out what was going on with them too. I was like, not really. That didn't really grab me.

The pacing, this movie kept speeding up and then slowing down. One minute I was like, oh, this is good. Next minute we've slowed down. Now we've. I was like, where are we going? Yeah, it wasn't.

Wasn't a fan of that angle towards the end. Yeah, it got a bit lost, very particularly at the end. There was just too many.

It was trying to tie the ends together, but I don't think it did a very good job.

Paul: 00:38:57

Well, then they wheeled in like an agent alien. I'm just like, oh, look, an agent alien. Like, how did he get through the security. Where were they storing him? I have so many questions right now.

Yeah, and that's like, it ends. End of life. Like, oh, okay.

Marc: 00:39:10

But I enjoyed the soundtrack. I thought that fit some of the scenes very well. Some of the shots were great.

Like you saying that one in the reflection, there were some points where I was going, oh, that's cool. That is really cool. I like what they've done there.

But, yeah, for me, down the middle for the whistleblower story, I'm gonna give it the full five out of five. The other side, zero. Okay, so down the middle, five for me. Over to you, Mr. Horn.

Darren: 00:39:29

Yeah. You've got a lot of good points. I like the fact that it does. Like a.

An opening where we're straight into the movie, but then at the same time, Emily Blunt's character is the weather girl who wants to be a newscaster. Like, every single weather girl in a movie I've ever seen is a weather girl that wants to be a newscaster. That's not massively original.

Amy Blunt's acting was great. And she's really good. You know, I love the way she would, like, stroke her partner's hair. And she's really good at being affectionate with people.

Marc: 00:39:57

There's a good. Good nuance. Nuances.

Paul: 00:39:59

Yeah, she's always very good. Whatever characters. She's in the scene totally feel like Devil Wears Prada. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Marc: 00:40:05

Totally in that.

Darren: 00:40:06

But then and every. I think universally every single person is a great actor. I'm just not entirely sure they were aware they were in a scene with other people.

So, like, everyone was wonderful, but there was, like, no chemistry between Emily Blunt and Wyatt Russell. Really. I didn't understand why they were together at all. There was no real chemistry between the other couple. Really. I didn't.

Paul: 00:40:26

And again, you were that busy, so.

Marc: 00:40:28

I get the impression they had been long together. Very long. No, because they didn't know much about each other. They kept asking each other questions.

Paul: 00:40:34

I thought, I must admit, when it started you in the action, if it was like a TV show or something, they start you in the action. You're like, oh, what's going on? Then the flashback. This is how they got there.

Marc: 00:40:43

Fill in some gaps.

Paul: 00:40:43

And I was waiting for the flashback. It's like, oh, it's never coming, is it? It's just.

Marc: 00:40:47

We just don't know.

Paul: 00:40:48

Yeah.

Darren: 00:40:48

So it was really hard to care. And for the first, like, hour, I was like, I don't care still, like, what? I don't care if this nerd gets caught By Colin.

I like Colin Firth more than this actor because I don't know who this is.

Paul: 00:41:01

Yeah, wipe them out.

Darren: 00:41:01

Col. Colin Firth might actually be right. Like, that's Colin Fir. Recognize. Like, he's probably right. He's very clever. So. And then there was just a lot of kind of nuisance and weird decisions.

And I was like, this doesn't really make sense at all. And so I. I found it really hard to get into. I think that's kind of my main.

Marc: 00:41:20

Over complicated was the word I wrote down.

Darren: 00:41:22

Over complicated. And then the bad guy, you know, Colin Firth, he said, we've got to stop this guy. We've got to stop this guy. We can't release this information.

Yeah, my wife died, but we're not really talking about that. And that's had some impact on this. And our 12 scientists have disappear. Is that because 12 scientists in our world kind of keep turning up dead?

Or there's some weird conspiracy about that.

Marc: 00:41:39

It was never really explored that was it?

Paul: 00:41:41

In the words of the critical drinker, don't know.

Darren: 00:41:43

And then. And then it gets to a point where it's like, Connie Firth get catches up with them. And then he's like, I'm just gonna have a sit down.

Paul: 00:41:50

Yeah, what's that all about?

Marc: 00:41:52

And then he realizes, oh, I'll just let them do it anyway. I've got all this way.

Paul: 00:41:56

I've tried absolutely everything. I'm just gonna sit down. Have you tried shooting the them? No, no, Just got to sit down instead.

Darren: 00:42:01

And then the building, the newscaster thing is surrounded. They've cut the power and cut the backup power. But then the other girl just walks through everyone straight up and said, do you need this?

Oh, the thing that they also looking for and looking for you. You're just now going to walk through the enemy lines. You just hand it over. And you knew that she wanted that how? Like, it was ludicrous.

But then from that point onwards, it became one of the best movies I've seen. Which bit onwards, from that point, once they start to go live at the news station.

Paul: 00:42:33

Wait a minute. So this is like the last five minutes you're talking about?

Darren: 00:42:37

That happens a bit later. But I think once I got to the news station, okay, I was in. But also before that, I was crying.

And I was crying because I think, yeah, sure, it's about empathy and it's about caring for each other.

Paul: 00:42:49

See, I liked all that stuff.

Darren: 00:42:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's also like I'm. I think there's a lot of people who are so lonely.

And I think we've talked about Mad Max Fury Road a few times about this idea of being witnessed and we want to be seen and you know, our society is getting so fractured and you know, whether it's in the dating landscape, you know, with people just not being able to connect. I do have this vibe, this feeling that I'm not seeing people falling in love anymore.

I'm seeing people get together but I'm not seeing the, the euphoria and the excitement, butterflies and the like, oh, so and so's ill. It's like, are they like. I think it was just. He's just falling in love and taking a week off work because.

Do you remember that time when we were young where Chris Evans and Billy Piper just disappeared for six months?

Paul: 00:43:34

Oh yeah, they were, yeah, they just.

Darren: 00:43:36

Fell, they fell in love and it's like.

Paul: 00:43:38

And they still criticize them about it now and they're good mates I think still to this day.

Marc: 00:43:42

Yeah.

Darren: 00:43:42

So I just like.

And this idea particularly like a feminine energy can just look at you and see you and be like, hey, you're doing great, but you need to understand your kid loves you and you need to go to his like graduation or whatever or hey, I know it's hurting right now, but your wife is just really tired because of the kid. Just go home. Yeah, buy that those cupcakes you were going to buy her and just she's not angry with you, she doesn't want to break up.

She just needs a nap and you need a nap.

And just the idea that someone can come along, just tell you what you need to hear, tell you what you need to hear and do it with compassion and empathy and just be like, we're all tired of just living right now and paying bills and what and doom scrolling and seeing horrendous things and then getting this distorted view of the world and thinking it's much more evil.

Paul: 00:44:30

Than it is and then fighting within.

Marc: 00:44:32

Ourselves almost because we're not listening.

Darren: 00:44:34

Because we're not listening. And the idea that someone could come along and with compassion, like put their hand on your cheek and just be like, you're doing okay.

Here's some advice to keep you going. Honestly, I had tears rolling down my face and I was just like, I.

Marc: 00:44:47

Did like that moment. I thought that was good, that was a good power to have.

Paul: 00:44:51

Yeah.

Darren: 00:44:51

Yeah.

Marc: 00:44:51

But it just, it just messed anyway. It just messed the movie up for me.

Paul: 00:44:54

Yeah, there was definitely moments in it where you're like, yeah, that's a really solid message. And A good moment.

Marc: 00:44:59

There were certain parts where it has been a big chunk on one of the sides of this door storage. Then it was switch over. And I was like, I was just enjoying that. I don't feel like we need reset to.

And the other part of the story was at a completely different place and a different pace. It didn't match up. That for me let it down.

Darren: 00:45:12

But then again to the newsroom. And then it becomes like a really cool episode of the newsroom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. Talking show.

Marc: 00:45:19

The chaos was going on with all the stuff I did like that.

Darren: 00:45:21

And as it slowly escalates, like why, like why New York? And I want to dive in on our little like Kansas whatever show.

Paul: 00:45:27

And it's like cynical, aren't they?

Darren: 00:45:29

They look cynical. What is this? And then that the news reader who's like wait, what are we seeing? And I saw Mark Commode and Simon Mayo reviewing this.

And Mark Commode was being really kind to Simon, which was unusual. And he had picked up on the news reader. Simon Mayo had and said, you know, she does such a good job at just seeing.

And Mark was like, but they did that with you at 9 11. They just said just describe what you're seeing. And he's like, so for you to say she got it right when you did that is a really great about that.

Marc: 00:45:56

Yeah.

Darren: 00:45:56

And. And heard like, are you seeing this? Okay, I think we're seeing this.

And then gradually as it went to BBC, then it goes to China, it goes to Russia, then the whole of the world stops and everyone's looking at their phone being like aliens are real. Everything is different. That didn't feel like I was watching a movie that felt like it was a premonition that.

That felt like that is going to happen in the next year or so. And then I saw people online saying this was basically a science up to prepare people for because. Because they basically said aliens exist.

Like this year and last year it feels very.

Marc: 00:46:30

Because there's. There's stuff coming all the time.

Darren: 00:46:32

So then next year I, I think it's. I'm going to say on the podcast on this day and be like, I think that we're going to see aliens next year or the year after percent next year.

f you're listening to this in: 2027

I want there to be a new thing or a new stage of society and I want it to be kind and I want it to be curious and I want it to be empathetic and I want there to be just. I need a grown up to come and calm us down and tell us that we're doing okay, but we fucked it up a little bit and here's what we can do to be.

Paul: 00:47:13

Even if the grown up is from another planet.

Marc: 00:47:15

Yeah, but the World War three thing reminded me of.

That's what it seemed like, you know when, like in a playground, loads of kids like fighting and grummage and then punching and then someone comes, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Yeah, let's just get along here.

Like someone from the outside, from a different perspective to come in and tell you that you just, you're doing all that, you're doing okay, but you just need to communicate better.

Darren: 00:47:31

Absolutely. And I see conspiracy theories that this 31 Atlas meteor is like moving sus, although apparently there's no evidence.

And the idea that that could be an alien spacecraft on its way, I just, I just keep thinking, please, like at this point I almost don't care. So if they're coming to eat us, fine. It's kind of over with. Let's move, move on. But I just, I watched that whole scene unfold.

The excitement of the news readers and the people in the office and then their sense of, I think I can only describe it as awe.

Paul: 00:47:58

And yet in reality, would they just start doing like daft tick tocks for the aliens? Like I'm doing an alien tick tock.

Marc: 00:48:05

Not if it was something like that. I think it would, it would get very real very quickly.

Darren: 00:48:08

Yeah, but I think you would get people on the roof with science. But ET Take me home dependence, you're.

Marc: 00:48:13

Always going to get that. Always going to get that.

Darren: 00:48:15

So I thought that, I thought that whole section, that third act was unbelievably well done. I think it struggles from a shit script. It's a really good idea. But I think the characters didn't really get on well with each other and there was.

It just told the wrong parts of the story.

Marc: 00:48:32

I think it just, it's just the way it tied it up was just a bit messy. What I wanted from Disclosure day was some closure.

Darren: 00:48:37

Yeah.

Marc: 00:48:37

At the end of the movie, that's.

Paul: 00:48:38

The sequel closure day.

Marc: 00:48:39

Yeah. But I was just left going, But.

Darren: 00:48:41

I like that when she's just like, listen. And I'm just like, yeah, everyone just calm down and Listen to each other.

So I don't know what she was going to say, but it's probably just going to be like, fucking stop being dicks. Like, don't be a dick.

Marc: 00:48:53

So what are you going to give it?

Darren: 00:48:54

I'm going to give it. I mean, I could go easily a little bit higher, but I think I'm going to go.

I was going to go 6, 7 just to annoy the youngsters, but I think I'll go 6.9 to amuse myself.

Marc: 00:49:09

You know what?

Paul: 00:49:10

He surprised me because I. I was watching it going, I think Darren's gonna hate this.

Marc: 00:49:14

We had that look, didn't we?

Paul: 00:49:15

Yeah, look, yeah.

Darren: 00:49:16

But also I'm reminded I was having this conversation with one of the listeners who came with us because he was talking about walking out of a movie. And I was like, yeah, I've walked out of movies before. I've turned over movies, but you never know if the payoff is coming.

And I've said, I'm sure I've said before that the Good, the Bad and the ugly I think is a mid film. And then that ending scene kicks in and I'm like, are you freaking kidding me? This is cinema.

So I think that, yeah, it's got a rough build up, but it made me cry. It made me feel, yeah, which is good.

Paul: 00:49:45

And you can't downplay that on anyone.

Darren: 00:49:47

Very numb, broken old man. The fact that somebody can make me feel is pretty cool.

Paul: 00:49:53

That's good. And you do find it, don't you? Sometimes you're watching a film that you think, I'll see what this is.

Like it might be a really shit film or really good film. It can be either. But it makes you feel something because there's really shit films that people would go, you like that?

And I'm like, yeah, because like what you just said. Yeah, because it made me feel X, Y, Z. And because of that, it's kind of in my little bubble of no, I like that film.

Darren: 00:50:17

It made me hopeful for the future. And I like that idea that any advanced civilization would be empathetic. I think that love is the answer.

I think that love is the thing that holds universe together. And I think that that trying to evolve to that level is kind of one of the reasons we're here. And so I. It makes me hopeful that when it will.

It's weird because I keep on saying if aliens exist even though they've released evidence that they've released, but I haven't looked at the evidence because it feels like a distraction and like My students were saying, how does that impact my life? Is that going to lower the hot cost of heat and oil taxes somehow?

Marc: 00:50:53

Yeah.

Paul: 00:50:54

It's like if you see in ufo, you will be charged a UFO tax.

Darren: 00:50:58

Anyway, I'm pleased that I surprised you both.

Paul: 00:51:01

You did? Yeah, I did.

Marc: 00:51:02

I think I'm the first time ever that he's given a movie more than me or you.

Darren: 00:51:06

Yeah, I think maybe there's a lot I didn't like. I didn't like it when he jumped on the ladder first and then reached back. It's like, no, you grab the ladder, you reach back to her, you get hurt.

Be the freaking man.

Marc: 00:51:16

Yeah. Be a gentleman. So that gives it 17.4, which puts it in 53rd, third out of 75.

Darren: 00:51:25

So, yeah, not a highly rated one, really. It did also feel like somebody who grew up watching Spielberg trying to do Spielberg didn't feel like Spielberg.

Paul: 00:51:33

That's interesting.

Marc: 00:51:34

But. So that's what we think. And that's where it landed, allegedly. What did people. Some of the people think who went with us on the Cinema Listeners. Yeah.

So this one is from Andy Minette, my friend who lives. Who came all the way.

Paul: 00:51:44

Yeah, yeah.

Marc: 00:51:45

All the way from the Ukraine. Just for the. Just for the Cinema Social. That's.

Paul: 00:51:47

That's a world record there with him. That's exactly what he said.

Marc: 00:51:50

Yes.

Paul: 00:51:50

I'm all the way from Ukraine.

Marc: 00:51:51

Hey, guys, Andy here. Thanks again for a great evening at the Cinema Social. It was a warm and friendly atmosphere and great to meet some new people.

Yeah, I enjoyed the movie overall. I think it did a good job.

Paul: 00:52:02

Of keeping me hooked. I'd give it a 7 out of 10.

Darren: 00:52:05

Very close to me. Solid gentleman and a scholar, no doubt.

Marc: 00:52:08

And this is from Rob Hancock.

Marc: 00:52:10

Hello there. I'm one of the many Robs who turn up to the Social nights.

I have to say that I really enjoyed coming along to the meetups, and it's always nice to have a chat with people, catch up and be part of the atmosphere before the film starts. As for Disclosure Day, I like the idea behind it, but overall, it just didn't land for me.

The pacing felt a bit uneven, and there were parts where I found myself struggling to stay engaged. There were definitely some good moments, some good music in there too.

I think was done by John Williams, and I could see what the film was trying to do, but in the end, it just didn't leave a good impression. So overall, I'd say Disclosure Day had an interesting idea at its core, but for me, just didn't fully Work out.

Paul: 00:52:54

Yeah, that's fair. From Rob.

Darren: 00:52:57

That ended more abruptly than disclosure day.

Marc: 00:53:00

And this is from the other.

Darren: 00:53:01

That would be so funny for the end. He just went, listen.

Marc: 00:53:06

Okay. This is from Rob Walker.

Paul: 00:53:08

Oh, another Rob.

Marc: 00:53:09

Here he is, the Legends Rob Walker MBE.

Paul: 00:53:12

Oh yeah, that's right.

Marc: 00:53:13

Here we go. Here's what he said. Hi everyone.

Paul: 00:53:15

Just a quick message to say many thanks for arranging last night's social event and the invitation to go to the pictures. Really good to see everyone catch up and discuss similar interests regarding movies. Regarding the film, I was quite impressed with it.

There are a few little plot holes, but apart from that, really good. Interested to see what you guys think of it regarding the podcast. Keep doing the great work and many thanks.

Darren: 00:53:43

We are doing great work.

Paul: 00:53:45

Thanks, Rob. Thanks.

Marc: 00:53:46

There we go.

Paul: 00:53:47

Thank you messages.

Marc: 00:53:48

So yeah, I mean I talked to a few people at the end of it and they mixed. Mixed. Some people, some people were a bit like confused by it or perplexed by it and they didn't quite understand, I think.

Remember one of those movies, if you watch it again, like fill in a few gaps.

Paul: 00:53:59

Darren's saying though he can't see himself watching it again.

Marc: 00:54:01

Yeah.

Darren: 00:54:02

Because it's. That first hour's a slog.

Marc: 00:54:04

Yeah. So that's what we thought and that's what some of you guys thought.

If you listening at home have got any thoughts, send it, send them in and we'll read them out on the show. So what, what will be some good follow ups after this? I think we've already mentioned Leave the World Behind.

Paul: 00:54:17

Yeah. Enemy of the States and any of this day.

Marc: 00:54:19

I think those are the two really in our back catalog. That would be. If you like this movie, like this episode, go back and listen to those.

Paul: 00:54:24

I mean if you want the Spielbergs, we've got Jaws and we've got Jurassic park, haven't we?

Marc: 00:54:28

Yeah.

Paul: 00:54:28

Did we do any. Oh, Minority Report. So we've done a few. Spielberg, if you want that side of.

Darren: 00:54:33

It, could also watch. Did you say how. Hail Mary Project.

Marc: 00:54:36

Hail Mary.

Darren: 00:54:36

How many you said? Did you say that?

Marc: 00:54:38

No.

Darren: 00:54:38

Okay. Yeah, I think that one True.

Marc: 00:54:40

Yeah.

Darren: 00:54:41

Because again, that's about honestly just being kind. It's also. What was the other quote they had in this movie? It was. It's what she says when she's clicking.

Marc: 00:54:50

I thought it was just. Just listen.

Darren: 00:54:51

No, no, no, no. That was at the end. She said something like, don't be afraid of what you don't understand.

Marc: 00:54:56

Oh, that's it. Yeah. Don't be afraid of what you don't understand. No.

Darren: 00:54:58

Yeah, that was it. And that was. That's the kind of Project helmet. Everything like, oh, it's an alien, but you can't be afraid. And I do this with my daughter.

I'll find a bug in my house and hey, check this out. She said, why is it I was. I actually don't know.

Marc: 00:55:08

Yeah.

Darren: 00:55:09

But I don't need to be afraid. We live in the uk. It's probably not going to point for me.

Marc: 00:55:12

Yeah.

Darren: 00:55:12

So let's just not kill something because we don't know what it is, you know.

Marc: 00:55:15

So that takes us nicely into part three, which is the listener lounge. In the listen lounge, we have the lobby where we have your questions, your comments and your messages. And then we ask the question of the week.

And then we finished by revealing next week's movie. We might as well tell people that we have now our letterboxd account.

Darren: 00:55:34

We do.

Marc: 00:55:35

We've had it for a while, but now it's, it's starting to be updated. So if you just go to letterbox search for movies in a nut. That's our username or moving up, Charlie.

Darren: 00:55:42

Will come up and there's famous people on it. That Nikki, actress from Obsession is on it dropping reviews of like Twilight and stuff, which she thinks is one of the greatest romances ever.

Marc: 00:55:49

Yep. So we've kind of used it as a. We're kind of using it as a funnel. So we don't, we just, we don't put our reviews on there. We've.

We found a system that converts our 10 out of 10 score to the out of 5. So it's like an algorithm that does. Does it.

Darren: 00:56:01

But there's also lists, isn't there? So you can get an idea as to.

Marc: 00:56:04

Yeah, well, it's interesting because I create them. I've got a list of all the Paul's movies, all the Dallas movies, all my movies, all the listener movies, every movie that we've done in order.

And you can see the different. It's interesting to see like our, visually our. So almost like our personalities are in these, these lists.

Paul: 00:56:19

Although some of the ones are selected were just because they were on at the cinema at that time.

Marc: 00:56:23

Yeah. But most of the, most of our choices are actual choices, aren't they? It's only a few that like you did, you did Wicked, but that was just.

Paul: 00:56:29

That's what I mean, stuff like that.

Marc: 00:56:30

Yeah.

Paul: 00:56:30

And most of my choices are just, can I make Darren proud?

Marc: 00:56:34

Yeah. So the answer is no. I'll put a link in the show notes to our Letterboxd. And if you. If you want to follow us on there, that'd be great.

Send us in your links and we'll follow you as well as well. There we go. We've had a message. It says, hi, lads. What's the longest it's taken you to you to realize you'd completely misunderstood a film?

A few years ago, I watched 12 Monkeys. That's a complicated movie.

I thought I understood it, recommended it to friends, and then about six months later, I read an article explaining what it was actually about. Turns out I'd missed the entire point. I've never recovered from the embarrassment. There you go. Oh, no. Cheers. That's from Steve.

Paul: 00:57:08

That's why I try never to recommend movies.

Marc: 00:57:10

Just thinking case it's because subjective is like, you might love a movie someone watching. And go, I thought that was.

Paul: 00:57:14

People come at me, obviously, knowing that.

Marc: 00:57:16

I like movies, Mr. Movie Guy.

Paul: 00:57:17

Oh, yeah, give me a film. And I'm like, it depends what mood you're in. It depends what you're looking for. Depends.

Marc: 00:57:22

Look at my letter boxed. Yeah, there you go. Look at. Yeah, you can just tell them the title list now. Yeah. Any thoughts on that, Darren?

Darren: 00:57:27

Usually I can't think of one. There's others that other people and even critics have got wrong, like Starship Troopers, but I kind of got that. That was a satire.

I remember I didn't get no country for Old Men, but I was immediately corrected by my friend Tom, who was just like, no, you need to watch that again. You did not get that. And then I watched it again. I was like, oh, my God. It was. It was really solid. Moulin Rouge.

I didn't really get the first time I watched it, but I got it the second time. But it's not that I missed the point. It just seemed like gashy celebrity karaoke.

And then the second time in, I kind of got the emotion a bit more so. But on the whole, I don't think so.

Marc: 00:58:01

For me, it was Napoleon Dynamite. I think I might mention this on here before. Like, everyone was, like, raving about it and said it was, like, hilarious. I just didn't get it.

And then we had a conversation with friends. It was like, it's. But there's this. And then there's this. Oh, yeah, fair enough. And then we all watched it as a group. I was like, totally get it.

Like, I really enjoyed it. But that first one when I was on my. I watched on my own, a lot of it just went over my head, like, what am I watching here?

But when I Understood certain parts in advance of watching it again, it made sense. And, like, a lot of the jokes landed this time. Yeah.

Paul: 00:58:27

And I think going on the back of what we were saying about the one we just reviewed, the Disclosure Day, sometimes it's the feeling. So I've definitely watched films before. I've been like.

I've done it with TV shows where I've watched a bit of it and gone, I'm not into this, can't get into it. And then I'll give it another go further down the line and I suddenly become obsessed with it and you see it in a completely different angle.

The only recent one I can think of, which, again, I didn't not get, but enjoyed it the second time a lot more, was, I think we've said this on here as well. If not, we've discussed it off air. Me and Darren, the fall guy with Ryan. Yeah, Gosling.

The first time I watched it, I came over going like, I didn't really enjoy it that much, but I thought I'd give it another chance because there was some cool stunts in it. What won it for me, weirdly, was I watched the film thinking, I don't get this.

And then the credit sequence is like a behind the scenes of them doing all the stunts for real and showing the behind the scenes of him with all the stunt guys doing it. It's like, oh, okay, I think I get it now.

And then when you watch it the second time, you're like, yeah, it's the plot and everything is just daft for the sake of it, because it's more about the stunts and it is almost like a parody and. What did you call Starship Troopers satire. It's almost got a bit of satire in it.

Marc: 00:59:34

It.

Paul: 00:59:34

And as soon as I got that the second time I watched, I'm like, this is really great. But the first time. Yeah. So sometimes it's not getting it. It's just the sense of how you're feeling it and taking it, I suppose.

All those movies where there's the big twist at the end, there's one. I'm going to say without telling you the twist, obviously, because I don't want to ruin it for people.

There's one called Predestination with Ethan Hawke, and that's a very twisty, turny time travel, so a bit like 12 Monkeys sort of thing. And then you get to the end and go, oh, I get it now. But then you kind of want to watch it again to see all the little seeds that are in it.

Cool question.

Marc: 01:00:03

Nice thank you. Noah Simpson emailed us. He said, hi, gentlemen. I love going to cinema by myself. I once booked.

I once booked tickets for a film, turned up on the wrong day, and rather than waste a trip, I just watched whatever was starting next. I ended up seeing three films back to back, and I didn't leave the cinema until nearly midnight.

It remains one of the best accidental days I've ever had. Have you ever had a completely unplanned movie experience that turned into a great memory? Gee, years, Noah, I've had.

Well, I can't, like, I can't remember in the films, but I've had times where I've just gone to the cinema and I've watched a movie that I wasn't gonna go and see, and I've ended up really enjoying it. I've had things like that.

Paul: 01:00:35

I remember once being in the city. My girlfriend at the time had job interviews or work or something else. So I was like, well, let's go to the cinema.

And ended up watching a bit, like he said, there, like two or three films in a row because she was gonna be out all day. And I'm like, oh, I'll just go.

Marc: 01:00:48

I'd love to have the time to do that. Now I don't.

Paul: 01:00:50

Yeah. And the films just whatever was on. So I'd watch stuff that maybe I wouldn't normally watch.

I watched this daft comedy and then I watched this horror one.

Marc: 01:00:57

I like that dude doing that. Just going in, just going, this, this and this.

Paul: 01:01:00

Yeah, it was quite a fun day. And then, you know, obviously. Sorry, at the end of the day. Have you had a fun day?

Marc: 01:01:04

Yeah, because sometimes choosing what you want to watch is hard as, like, just going to watch it. So if you're kind of forcing that situation, it kind of helps.

Darren: 01:01:10

I've done it with film festivals more. I was talking to other film lecturer at the college and we're talking about a movie called the Station Agent. And he was, oh, yeah, I've seen that.

I saw like Galway Film Festival because he grew up in I Island. And I was like, I saw it probably at Kessig Film Festival. That's crazy.

And there's other movies that we've both seen, so we must have both been kind of getting into film at the same period. But we would go to festival, so I'd see like the Woodsman with. And you'd see, you know, movies that were just really, really challenging.

And that can be eye opening.

Marc: 01:01:36

Cool.

Marc: 01:01:37

That takes us on to this week's Question of the Week, which has been Sent in by Steve.

Paul: 01:01:42

What's Steve got for us?

Marc: 01:01:43

He says, hi, guys. Love the show. He says, I've been meaning to email for a while, but I finally picked up the courage.

Marc: 01:01:48

Courage.

Marc: 01:01:48

I don't know why it would take up courage to email us.

Darren: 01:01:50

We might mock. We might mock him.

Marc: 01:01:53

Just don't know if I could take that kind of rejection.

Darren: 01:01:55

You love the show, do you? Do you love us? Do you want to marry us?

Paul: 01:01:59

Well, he's never writing in again now.

Marc: 01:02:00

Yeah, well, guys, he's writing delete now. He's put. Can you think of a movie, a terrible movie that was saved by a brilliant actor?

Darren: 01:02:09

Oh, there'd be about 7 billion. But I can't think of anything.

Marc: 01:02:12

I can't think of any. I'd have to have a think about that one one. And I haven't had time since it emailed in.

Darren: 01:02:16

But there's, like, Blackbeard's Ghost, which probably isn't a great movie. Not a lot of people like it, but Peter Houston of it is freaking phenomenal in it. And that leads me on to Pirates of Caribbean.

I think that if you didn't have Johnny Depp as that character and acting like that, you wouldn't. We wouldn't be talking about that movie.

Paul: 01:02:31

I think that's what made it into the phenomenon 100.

Marc: 01:02:34

There's not many people. I think Arnie in Terminator, I think he was made for that role because he's quite. He's quite. He's quite. That fits his profile anyway way.

Darren: 01:02:42

Yeah. But Michael B. And Linda Hamilton are also phenomenal.

Marc: 01:02:45

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Darren: 01:02:47

You could argue that with Running Man.

Marc: 01:02:48

True. Yeah.

Darren: 01:02:49

Potentially even Predator. He's really good in that.

Marc: 01:02:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Darren: 01:02:53

I'm just trying to think of really good actors who just bring it. Don't know.

Marc: 01:02:56

That's. That's this week's question made by Steve. Can you name a terrible movie that was saved by a brilliant actor?

If you'd like your question of the week on here, send them in and we'll pick out the best one. Okay. That takes us on to next week's movie, which is over to me.

Darren: 01:03:10

Cool. What you got?

Marc: 01:03:10

We're going back to: 2005

Paul: 01:03:15

We weren't born then, not for a long, long time.

Marc: 01:03:18

We're talking early, very early. Ryan Reynolds. This could be one of his first movies. It's called Waiting or in America it was called Shenanigans. I don't know why. I don't know why.

Paul: 01:03:26

You love it when they have Two titles.

Darren: 01:03:28

I don't know why Angus the crap out of me.

Marc: 01:03:30

I don't know. We'll. We'll probably have to reveal that maybe in your facts of why. Yeah. Why do they do that?

Paul: 01:03:36

Why Zootopia? Zootropolis. Well, I think that was to do with the Disney. Any copyright thing in Europe.

Darren: 01:03:40

They did it with Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. And that still angers me.

Marc: 01:03:43

So it's basically about the inner workings of a restaurant. So there's obviously there's waiting on. And then there's people waiting. Custom guests waiting.

Paul: 01:03:49

Okay, so it's kind of like multiple meaning what?

Darren: 01:03:52

Like Empire Records but set in a restaurant.

Marc: 01:03:54

It's a comedy or high fidelity.

Paul: 01:03:55

But not in a record shop. It's in a restaurant.

Marc: 01:03:57

ut and out comedy as well. So: 2005

Paul: 01:04:00

Oh yeah. As well.

Marc: 01:04:02

There's a few other people I recognize in there as well. So that is next week's movie. It's. It's on. I think it's on Prime. I say that reluctantly, but I think it's. It's on one of the.

The main streaming services. That takes us to the end of the show. Thank you for listening. If you want to help us, we recommend just sharing the show. Spread the word.

Darren: 01:04:18

Tell people about us sending us money.

Marc: 01:04:20

I could do that. Yes. Spread the word. Set. If you can think of just one person who would like this show. Send them a link. Tell them. Tell them about it.

It would really help.

Paul: 01:04:27

They don't even have to be a person. They can be an extraterrestrial.

Marc: 01:04:29

We've established they'll listen as well. Okay. Okay, that's it. This episode is officially over. This is Mark saying goodbye.

Darren: 01:04:35

This is Darwin saying goodbye. For now.

Marc: 01:04:37

Listen nice to be done. Had to be done.