Solo: A Star Wars Story - Does Han Solo Need Explaining?
This week, Marc, Darren and Paul crack open Solo: A Star Wars Story, the Star Wars spin-off built around smugglers, scoundrels, backstory and one of cinema’s most iconic characters.
Not seen it?
We’ll help you decide if this galaxy-hopping adventure is your kind of movie — completely spoiler free.
Seen it?
We reveal things you may have missed, the details you didn't notice and explore the choices, references and character moments that keep Star Wars fans talking.
Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
PART 1 – The Nutshell – If you haven’t seen it
A spoiler-free breakdown designed to help you decide if this Star Wars origin story is your kind of film and worth your time.
We explore a younger Han Solo, a dangerous criminal underworld and a galaxy where survival depends on charm, luck and knowing who to trust.
We’ll help you quickly understand the tone, style and experience of the film, from its heist-movie energy and western influences to the familiar Star Wars ingredients woven throughout.
By the end of Part 1, you will have made a decision!
PART 2 – The Unboxing – If you’ve seen it
What Did You Miss?
Reveal things you may have missed, hidden layers, the sublime and the ridiculous.
The lads uncover details, references and character moments that are easy to overlook on first viewing.
There’s discussion around legacy characters, origin stories, fan service, Star Wars expectations and the question of whether some characters are better left unexplained.
Plus, a look at where Solo fits within the wider Star Wars universe and why it continues to divide opinion among fans.
Paul’s Facts of the Day
Behind-the-scenes insights including:
Casting stories and alternate possibilities
Production changes and creative shifts
Hidden Star Wars references and connections
Details around the making of the film
Fascinating “what if?” moments that could have changed everything
Hate It or Rate It?
Marc, Darren & Paul submit their scores and Solo: A Star Wars Story takes its place in the Listener League and the Legend League.
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Right, I missed all that.
Speaker A:Very neat.
Speaker B:You want you to get in there?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's very good.
Speaker A:That's why I keep you guys around.
Speaker C:Or Disney own multiple intellectual property.
Speaker C:Why don't we have an Ewok vs Predator movie?
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Speaker B:Screw what I said.
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Speaker A:Plus there's movie facts, trivia and behind the scenes stories.
Speaker B:There's also your chance to choose the movie.
Speaker A:So grab some popcorn and let's crack open this week's movie.
Speaker A:Gentlemen, we're here once again.
Speaker A:Listener choice this time.
Speaker A:Yes, a Star wars story chosen by Phil Williams.
Speaker B:Phil, what did he pick last time?
Speaker A:Falling down.
Speaker B:That was it.
Speaker A:And that was his first ever request and he got chosen then.
Speaker A:And here he is on two.
Speaker A:That's only the second person who's had two picks since we started.
Speaker B:And there's going to be some people who are trying every month and not getting him through.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's a handful of people who've been trying every single month since we started and have never had their movie chosen by the wheel.
Speaker B:It's a cruel wheel of desert wheel it is.
Speaker A:He comes in since within six months.
Speaker A:Two movies chosen.
Speaker A:Right then.
Speaker A:So we are in part one, the nutshell where we will break the movie down.
Speaker A:Spoiler free to help you decide if Solo a Star Wars Story is your kind of movie and if it's worth your time.
Speaker A:So how would we summarize this for someone who hasn't seen it?
Speaker B:So this is one of them tricky ones where it's a Star wars story.
Speaker B:If you've not seen Star wars, are you going to gravitate towards this movie before you've watched Star wars or do we recommend that you watch Star Wars?
Speaker B:Because this is basically the origin story of a character in Star wars who you may have heard of called Han Solo, who was played by Harrison Ford in the original Star Wars.
Speaker B:And this is the prequel almost, if you want to use that terminology of that character.
Speaker A:It's the best.
Speaker A:It's the history in the background of the character.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I don't, I don't Think so, I think.
Speaker A:Well, I think it go either way.
Speaker A:So if you watch Star wars, then when you see.
Speaker A:When I see Han Solo in Star wars, you go, oh, I know him.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:I know his story.
Speaker B:So you think you could watch this?
Speaker A:You could do either, I think.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker B:What do you think, Darren?
Speaker C:Doesn't it land somewhere between the prequel movies?
Speaker B:So, yes, this is set 10 years before a New Hope, which is the original Star Wars.
Speaker A:Original Star wars, yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And the original pre.
Speaker B:The prequels are somewhere a bit further than that.
Speaker B:So it's about in the middle of that somewhere.
Speaker A:But the premise of this.
Speaker A:Well, the purpose of this is to fill in the character blanks of Han Solo, who is by his nature a very mysterious character.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:In the Star wars, the main Star wars movies.
Speaker A:So what's the story of this movie about?
Speaker A:It's a Star wars story.
Speaker A:What is the story?
Speaker C:Yeah, the story is about trust and freedom and what that means and smuggling, particularly in the criminal world.
Speaker C:Who can you trust?
Speaker C:How do you get freedom?
Speaker C:What does that look like with all these kind of moving powers from the Empire to the Rebellion.
Speaker C:The Rebellion is very quiet at the moment.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They haven't quite got power at this point.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:Then all the different criminal factions.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it's the underworld side of it all, the gangster.
Speaker B:The gangster world and how Han Solo moves through that world and then eventually becomes.
Speaker A:It's a young Han Solo trying to survive his way through dangerous.
Speaker A:The dangerous galaxy using his charm and his instinct.
Speaker A:And he's a lot of improvisation as you come to get know him in the.
Speaker A:In the later movies.
Speaker B:And it's getting to know his character and maybe why he is like he is in the later films.
Speaker A:Yeah, his background, his character.
Speaker A:So other things that when you see in the later movies would make sense.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Whereas if you've just seen him in the late movies, you not know his background story.
Speaker A:He's quite a mysterious character.
Speaker A:So some people I've saw, some people didn't want to watch this because they didn't want to.
Speaker A:They didn't want to break the mystique of the character.
Speaker B:Yeah, I get that.
Speaker B:And that's one of the things I was going to say, if you like that fact of not knowing the background.
Speaker B:Because sometimes too much is too much, isn't it?
Speaker B:Because some people don't like the prequels because it gave too much about the Jedi away.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's also the issue with Boba Fett.
Speaker B:Where you know too much about Boba Fett.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Boba Fett's supposed to be this badass, mysterious character.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Then we have a whole series on him, explaining him.
Speaker A:I did always want to know how him and Chewie got together as a partnership, though.
Speaker A:That was something I'd always wondered.
Speaker A:But breaking away from Star wars and the specifics as a standalone movie, how do we.
Speaker A:How would you sort of describe this?
Speaker C:It's kind of like a semi adventure in space, in the vein of Indiana Jones meets Guardians of the Galaxy.
Speaker B:Or if you're familiar with Firefly and Serenity.
Speaker B:It's very much that world of.
Speaker B:It's like Westerns in spaces.
Speaker C:Scoundrels in space.
Speaker B:Scoundrels in space.
Speaker A:I had Guardians of the Galaxy meets Ocean's Eleven.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker B:Because there's a bit of heisting going on.
Speaker B:Bit of heisting in this.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:It's not an overly complicated story.
Speaker A:It's just about a young man, basically.
Speaker A:He's kind of lost.
Speaker A:He's kind of trying to find his way.
Speaker A:He's just using his weight and his charm.
Speaker B:And it feels like the story is very much just a vehicle to learn about the character, isn't it?
Speaker A:Yeah, it's like we know him from a certain point.
Speaker A:This is taking him from his origins up to the point where most people who've seen Star wars will know where they see him from the first time.
Speaker A:Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker B:Or if you are the audience who's listening to this, who's a Star wars fan.
Speaker B:So you are aware of that world.
Speaker B:There's lots of.
Speaker B:I guess the people online call them member berries.
Speaker B:Like, remember.
Speaker B:Remember where they put in like little.
Speaker B:They call them Easter eggs.
Speaker B:Sometimes they'll be like, oh, do you remember this?
Speaker B:So there's lots of references in this, which are maybe throwaway lines in Star.
Speaker A:Wars so they actually mean something other, like a.
Speaker A:Pointing towards something.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So they'll reference it in the film and then here you might see it happen again.
Speaker B:We're in non spoiler territory, so I don't want to go in too far.
Speaker B:I just had a little bit.
Speaker B:It's bit about mentors kind of being under someone's wing and joining a gang as well.
Speaker B:That kind of thing with Woody Harris.
Speaker B:Harrelson's in it.
Speaker B:It's a bit of an ensemble cast, so Amelia Clarke, Emilia Clark's in it.
Speaker B:Who else have we got in this?
Speaker B:Paul Bettany's in it.
Speaker C:Woody Harrison, Donald Glover, Thandie Newton, Warwick Davis, Anthony Daniels, Paul Bettany, Paul Waller, Phoebe Waller, Bridge and Jon Favreau.
Speaker B:Yeah, I forgot Favreau was in it.
Speaker B:He does a voice to one of the characters.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And when it kicked in, I'm like, that was your.
Speaker B:Because Jon Favreau obviously then went on to do the Mandalorian and direct all that sort of work.
Speaker A:So in terms of the overall, like the Star wars, that is not about destiny and things like that.
Speaker A:This is more just a lower scale story about survival.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Which is what he, he is all about.
Speaker A:He's just.
Speaker A:All he knows is how to survive.
Speaker B:Don't go into this expecting Jedi stuff though.
Speaker B:I would just say as well, this isn't very.
Speaker A:It's a more stripped away.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's like.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's any, any, any main thing that has an ensemble cast.
Speaker A:This is a breakaway thing about one of them.
Speaker C:But it's after order 66, isn't it?
Speaker B:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker C:Order 66 is when all the Jedi get slaughtered.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So there isn't any Jedi in this film.
Speaker C:Execute.
Speaker C:Order 66.
Speaker B:Oh, that was good.
Speaker A:That was very good.
Speaker A:What kind of watch is this, Darren?
Speaker C:God.
Speaker C:I actually genuinely, seriously don't know.
Speaker C:I don't know how this would work because I don't.
Speaker A:Is it a long film?
Speaker A:I can't remember even if it was long.
Speaker B:Two hours?
Speaker C:Two hours?
Speaker C:Fifteen.
Speaker C:I. I genuinely.
Speaker C:I genuinely don't know.
Speaker C:I think it's.
Speaker A:If it's Star wars people alter group, you could probably watch it.
Speaker A:But if you don't know Star Wars, I don't know if you'd have to watch this on your own and pay attention or.
Speaker A:It could be a.
Speaker A:Could it be a background movie?
Speaker C:I think it's.
Speaker C:It would be a background movie.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:I think it'd be one where you want to hang out with friends or just have something on the screen that you look at occasionally.
Speaker C:I don't think it's like a date movie.
Speaker C:I don't think it's like a feat necessarily.
Speaker C:A feeling movie where you want to have a cry or you want to be scared or anything.
Speaker C:It's just.
Speaker B:Or entertainment or it's.
Speaker B:You're running through all the Star wars movies type movie.
Speaker B:Like you're having a marathon and you're working through them all and it's just.
Speaker C:Do people do that now?
Speaker C:Because it sounds kind of ridiculous.
Speaker B:I know there's so many now.
Speaker B:I'm just thinking, do people do that with Marvel and all these things as well now?
Speaker B:Because there's so many that it would take like six months to get through.
Speaker C:Them and then you'd have to cry because you'd have to watch a couple of very shit movies.
Speaker B:There is that.
Speaker A:That takes us on to part two, the unboxing.
Speaker A:So spoiler territory ahead.
Speaker A:If you haven't seen the movie and we've helped you decide you do want to go and check it out, we recommend you go and do so now and then come back, because from this point forward, there will definitely be some spoilers.
Speaker A:So in the unboxing, we have what did you miss?
Speaker A:Where we will reveal things you may have missed even if you've seen the movie before.
Speaker A:Paul has his facts of the day, and then we round off with Hate it or Rate it, where we each give a brief opinion score out of 10, and we see where it lands on the Legend League.
Speaker A:So what did we miss?
Speaker A:I'm gonna go to Darren first.
Speaker C:Hate it when you do that.
Speaker C:And I've got really nothing to say.
Speaker B:He always does that.
Speaker B:But you always find something.
Speaker C:It's hard, though.
Speaker C:It's hard because this had a troubled production, because it was originally what those.
Speaker B:Guys called Lawson and Chris Lord and someone.
Speaker B:Miller.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Who did, like, they've done a movie we've talked about before.
Speaker B:Yeah, the.
Speaker B:The Ryan Gosling.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Project Hell Mary.
Speaker C:Yeah, they directed that.
Speaker C:And they directed, like, Lego Movie.
Speaker C:And they directed that 21 Jump street, didn't they?
Speaker B:Yeah, Phil Lord and Christopher Miller.
Speaker A:So I heard.
Speaker A:Well, when it said directed by Ron Howard, I'd forgotten that.
Speaker A:But then someone of my friends told me.
Speaker A:Yeah, but it didn't start out.
Speaker A:Him.
Speaker A:He took over.
Speaker A:Tell us the story then, Darren.
Speaker C:Just about halfway through.
Speaker C:As in halfway through.
Speaker C:They had shot half of the movie.
Speaker C:At least they fired them over creative differences.
Speaker A:Is this, like, was like a duo of director type team?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then they just brought in Ron Howard, who was a friend of the producer, whatever, to come and did he.
Speaker A:Have to start again?
Speaker B:I got that.
Speaker B:You reshot 80% of their footage.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And exploded the budget.
Speaker A:I was just gonna say that.
Speaker A:Destroyed that budget.
Speaker C:Like, Paul Bettany wasn't in the original cut and apparently knew Ron Howard and sent him a text and was like.
Speaker C:When he heard he'd got attached to it.
Speaker C:And he's like, so what does an actor have to do to get into a Star wars movie?
Speaker C:And Paul was like, I've only just got the gig.
Speaker C:Give me a chance to turn up on set.
Speaker C:And then brought him in to be the bad guy.
Speaker B:Amazing.
Speaker C:So what I mean by that is it's not necessarily a consistent voice or sense of storytelling or visual storytelling.
Speaker C:Within it.
Speaker A:So, two who got fired.
Speaker A:What were they known for before this?
Speaker C:21 Jump Street, LEGO Movie, Project Hail Mary.
Speaker C:Oh, Project Hail Mary is obviously after it.
Speaker A:Okay, right.
Speaker A:So they've obviously learned along the way something better.
Speaker B:They did animation.
Speaker B:And then is Project Hail Mary the first live action after this one?
Speaker B:Oh, no, of course, yeah.
Speaker A:21 Jump street, which is based off an old TV series.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So they were the one on for kind of jaunty comedy sort of bantery things, I suppose before this, this was.
Speaker A:Kind of like maybe the wrong ingredients put together didn't quite work.
Speaker B:Kennedy wasn't happy by the sounds of.
Speaker C:It, I would also imagine.
Speaker C:I think I heard they clashed over the genre because I think that they were leaning towards more comedy and slapstick and it's like, more.
Speaker C:But then Guardians of Galaxy pulled it off and, you know, it can be.
Speaker A:Done, but I don't think Han Solo is that exactly.
Speaker A:He's more of a serious, mysterious guy.
Speaker B:And the Ron Howard link, don't forget, is Ron Howard was in American Graffiti with George Lucas.
Speaker B:And then apparently he was offered to think about directing episode one, okay, Phantom Menace, but he turned it down because he said too much pressure.
Speaker B:And then all his mates talked George into directing it anyway, so he was always kind of on the sidelines because he's mates with George Lucas anyway.
Speaker B:So I guess this came up and he said, yeah, count me in.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So it was.
Speaker A:So it was.
Speaker A:Had had problems.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And so.
Speaker C:But then the main thing that there was in there was Easter eggs.
Speaker C:And I always find it a bit boring to be on a podcast and be like, well, let me tell you, the Easter eggs give a fuck about Easter eggs, like some people do.
Speaker C:Yeah, I know they do.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And then there's lots of what I would basically call fan service, where they're throwing it out to other movies.
Speaker C:Like, I didn't go deep into the Easter eggs, but apparently there's, I think, in Paul Bettan is.
Speaker C:What's his name somebody?
Speaker C:Dross.
Speaker C:I can't remember his name.
Speaker B:Dryden, is it?
Speaker C:Yeah, he's got, like, a Indiana Jones prop in there, and there's, like, Mandalorian armor in the background.
Speaker C:And there's lots of lines where when Han Solo first comes back to see Lando Karisian, he's.
Speaker C:He's angry and acting angry, but then he pretends he wasn't angry, which is how they meet each other in Empire Strikes Back.
Speaker C:Does that make sense?
Speaker C:So they're kind of mirroring it, and then, you know, Han Solo saying, I've got a good feeling about this.
Speaker C:It's like.
Speaker C:Because he normally says he's got a bad feeling.
Speaker B:And I got the other one where he's like, I hate you.
Speaker B:And he goes, I know.
Speaker C:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:Instead of saying, I love you.
Speaker C:I know, right?
Speaker A:I missed all that.
Speaker A:Very neat.
Speaker B:I want you again there.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's very good.
Speaker A:That's why I keep you guys around.
Speaker C:Then at the end, he was like, oh, if you want, there's a gangster on Tatooine who's hiring Tatooine.
Speaker A:When he went there, I was like,.
Speaker B:Okay, I know him.
Speaker C:Yeah, I know.
Speaker C:It's like, oh, that means he's going to go work for Jabber.
Speaker C:Oh, I see what they did there.
Speaker C:Isn't that clever?
Speaker C:There's lots of that.
Speaker C:And you can probably go on a YouTube freaking deep dive and find 20 or 30 things like that.
Speaker B:So that's what I meant by the member berries that.
Speaker B:Oh, do you remember?
Speaker B:Oh, the Easter egg hunt.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Even Darth Mulbin in it.
Speaker C:It's just not like, oh, you guys would know who he is.
Speaker A:I think that was to.
Speaker A:Fans will have made it realize that there was meant to be other movies.
Speaker A:When that happened, towards the end of.
Speaker B:The film, they were hoping, I think, for another one.
Speaker A:I think that's what.
Speaker A:Because I think that was initial plan, but then this movie didn't go to plan, so there was no more.
Speaker A:I think someone.
Speaker A:I read some of those.
Speaker A:There was three in mind.
Speaker A:The first one did well.
Speaker A:I had this, then this.
Speaker A:But the first one didn't do.
Speaker A:Even though Ron Howard took over, it didn't do that well, did it?
Speaker A:It wasn't received very well.
Speaker B:It came off the Back of Last Jedi and there was a bit of fun backlash.
Speaker B:You may have heard about this, dear listener to that one.
Speaker C:But then it came out of Rogue One as well.
Speaker B:Yeah, it did.
Speaker B:Music.
Speaker B:I wrote the music down.
Speaker B:There's lots of Little John Williams, so John Powell, I think, did the score for this one.
Speaker B:Obviously, they use lots of the John Williams music cues at certain points.
Speaker B:So when you hear the.
Speaker B:Ooh, I remember this.
Speaker B:So there's lots of little nostalgia baiting sort of things.
Speaker B:There was the bit where.
Speaker B:Where Han Solo is in the Imperial Complex just before he gets drafted in.
Speaker B:There's a little advert on the TV in the background saying, come join the Empire.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And most people might have heard this, but you might not have done.
Speaker B:I'm gonna throw it in there.
Speaker B:You can hear the Imperial March.
Speaker A:No, I didn't hear that now there was too much.
Speaker B:Is actually on that advert.
Speaker B:And I think that's the only time it's in the film.
Speaker B:The bit where Chewie and Han first get in the.
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker B:Yeah, the first time they get in the cockpit by side.
Speaker B:By side with each other and it's like, oh, take the seat, Chewie.
Speaker B:There's a proper little.
Speaker B:Little.
Speaker B:So there's lots of little music cues.
Speaker A:Which feel like music playing on the poster.
Speaker A:Makes it seem like the Empire's got their own entrance music.
Speaker B:And I almost feel it diminishes the whole.
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't like that as.
Speaker A:Because it's like, for the movie.
Speaker A:It's not for the characters in the movie.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:It's like breaking the fourth wall kind of thing.
Speaker B:So that's what Darren's saying about.
Speaker B:It's so Easter egg heavy that sometimes, like.
Speaker B:Oh, is that too far?
Speaker A:Don't shove too many things in there too far.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then, of course, there's things like the Kessel Run, which he mentions in original Star Wars.
Speaker B:Oh, we did the Castle Run in less than 12 parsecs.
Speaker B:So they show all that in here.
Speaker A:So they were like, let's flesh that out.
Speaker A:Let's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Or, hey, you want a fairer square?
Speaker B:To me, like, these throwaway lines in the original trilogy are now full scenes of, oh, well, let's have Lando and Han nabbing these scenes together.
Speaker A:I mean, is it an almost impossible task to do this?
Speaker A:Because you're never going to please everybody doing this.
Speaker A:People don't want to know the story.
Speaker A:So if you tell it not in the right way, people won't like that.
Speaker A:And it's kind of dangerous territory because it could go horribly wrong.
Speaker B:And some people probably do like that little nostalgia hits, whereas other people might be feeling fatigued by it because of all the other movies doing it as well.
Speaker A:Now, can you tell his story and maintain his mystery?
Speaker C:It can work, though.
Speaker C:Like, they did a Cruella movie, which I don't think anyone asked for, but I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker B:I haven't seen that one.
Speaker B:Is that a Mer Stone?
Speaker A:Nobody asked.
Speaker A:Yeah, I like that.
Speaker C:But that was.
Speaker C:That was good fun.
Speaker C:That was.
Speaker A:Okay, so I've made a note.
Speaker A:So in.
Speaker A:In this, most of his traits from the original story here, his blaster, his surname.
Speaker A:I thought that was interesting.
Speaker A:I didn't know that.
Speaker A:How he got the Millennium Falcon, the Kessel Run meeting Chewie meeting Lando, the way he shoots first though.
Speaker B:The Millennium Falcon losing its pod.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:When we see the Millennium Falcon in this film, it's very shiny, very new, and you're like, oh, it doesn't quite look right.
Speaker B:By the time he's battered it through the Kessel Run, it's like, ah, that's what it looks like.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker A:It's been a few battles by the time we see it later on.
Speaker A:Y. Yeah.
Speaker A:For some people, that's fun fan service, but for others, it's like, makes the galaxy feel smaller in a way, because you don't want it, you know.
Speaker A:You know, more of it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And again, it's that thing of if you haven't seen Star wars and you're watching this for the first time, you're just thinking, wow, that ship almost just.
Speaker B:Can people not know what the Millennium Falcon is?
Speaker B:I think there must be, but I'm.
Speaker A:Mainly thinking of younger people who only just come across it now.
Speaker A:They wouldn't have seen.
Speaker A:They might.
Speaker A:This might be the first Star wars thing that's been put in for them.
Speaker B:It's hard to know because I feel like I knew about the Millennium Falcon before I knew about any.
Speaker A:But the difference is I don't think it's that detrimental to no hand story.
Speaker A:When you see the original New Hope.
Speaker A:Don't think it makes that much difference.
Speaker A:We can't undo that.
Speaker A:We only saw that first, so we're seeing it retroactively.
Speaker A:So we can't know.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:That's interesting.
Speaker B:Speaking of watching this with someone who doesn't know.
Speaker B:She's like that Friends episode now.
Speaker B:They don't know that we know that they know.
Speaker A:And I liked.
Speaker A:I actually liked how the story of Chewie and Han, they're just two people who just helped each other out and just became friends.
Speaker A:There's no, like, big, huge story to it.
Speaker A:It's just they just help each other out and remain friends.
Speaker A:Loyal loyalty.
Speaker B:And again, that's something the fans might enjoy where they meet and you learn how they meet and people might be like, oh, I kind of didn't want to see how they meet.
Speaker A:Does this film quite.
Speaker A:They become a Western?
Speaker C:Yeah, there's total Western elements.
Speaker A:Outlaws, train robberies, frontier world, quick draw, standoffs.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Near the end, it's got the whole classic shot.
Speaker C:Were like, behind hand, and he's kind of a gun.
Speaker A:Even Beckett feels like one of them old Western gunsling teaching a young outlaw the rules of survival.
Speaker C:Yeah, they said that they were kind of inspired by the movie Unforgiven and a little bit by Heat as well.
Speaker A:I thought the Darth Maul appearing at the end changed the scale of the story because it had been very localized, very low scale until that point.
Speaker A:That was your first foreshadowing of anything bigger outside.
Speaker B:And I'm sure one of my facts was they were going to have an overall gangster.
Speaker B:But then it was Ron Howard who pushed to get Darth Maul to be that gangster.
Speaker A:Quick break here.
Speaker A:To say, if you want to help us, the best thing you can do is share the show.
Speaker A:What should people do?
Speaker B:They could share it on social media.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Anything else?
Speaker C:Leave us reviews.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Positive reviews.
Speaker B:They could tell their friends.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Like in person.
Speaker B:Like old school.
Speaker C:They could send us cash.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:They could send us sponsorship.
Speaker B:Sponsorship deals that would help Darren.
Speaker A:But that wasn't what I was thinking.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So anything you can think of.
Speaker A:If you can just think of one fellow movie fan who would like this, send them a link.
Speaker A:Just even word of mouth is very powerful as well.
Speaker A:Spreading the word of the show will be greatly received.
Speaker B:And can we be like them youtubers that have to do them awkward segues into whatever they're selling?
Speaker B:Like, oh, I've just written a note with my new pen mark and it's the greatest thing ever used.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So whatever you want us to flog, just let us know.
Speaker B:We'll try and segue.
Speaker A:If you want to help, the simplest way is to just spread the word.
Speaker A:I thank you.
Speaker A:Okay, that takes us on to Paul's facts of the day.
Speaker A:What do you got, Paul?
Speaker C:Hit me up.
Speaker C:Paul, what you got?
Speaker B:Okay, so I touched on a couple back there, but let's do some more.
Speaker B:So Harrison Ford revealed that he's seen the movie and he thinks it's phenomenal.
Speaker B:Although Harrison Ford's very well trained at saying that when he's promoting.
Speaker B:Yeah, but he skipped out on the premiere with the rest of the cast because he didn't want to steal Alden's moment of glory.
Speaker A:I think that was the right thing to do.
Speaker B:Probably the right thing.
Speaker B:And sounds like a Harrison Ford thing to do as well.
Speaker B:I didn't think this would be the case.
Speaker B:Dryden Voss.
Speaker B:So Paul Bettany's character, his facial stripes, they were added in post production, and according to Paul Bettany, he didn't even know about them until he saw a photo that Ron Howard sent to him.
Speaker A:Is that just to make a bit more.
Speaker B:A bit more menacing?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Were they stripes or scars?
Speaker B:Scars, but they kind of look like makeup.
Speaker B:So the fact that they made that in post production is quite impressive, I suppose.
Speaker B:This is the first Star wars film in official canon where nobody speaks the Word Jedi in the word canon or canon.
Speaker B:In other words the lore of it all and the kind of the special.
Speaker B:Have you not heard that?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:Okay, so if, if we're talking about the official canon for Star wars, that's where before when we were talking about all the Expanded Universe stuff, when Disney took over, all of that became non canon because they were stuff that they.
Speaker A:Only want to include in a certain thing.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:I don't think Alien vs.
Speaker C:Predator is canon because it's not.
Speaker C:It's not part of it.
Speaker A:Okay, right.
Speaker B:If Star wars really?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker B:So the certain film franchises where they go, oh, that bit's not canon anymore.
Speaker A:So like so if it get changes producer or it's made by another company or something, it doesn't quite means that.
Speaker A:Or is it.
Speaker A:The story's different.
Speaker C:It might just be like a creative executive that made decisions and then you know, moves on.
Speaker C:Then the next one comes in.
Speaker C:It's like that's.
Speaker C:We should never have done that.
Speaker C:Just a mistake.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:So like that last Terminate film which I really hated.
Speaker A:Dark Fate.
Speaker B:Dark Fate where they said oh, this takes place after Terminator to ignore everything else and then they took over from where Terminator 2 would have finished.
Speaker B:Made a right mess of it.
Speaker B:But I'm not here to judge.
Speaker B:So yeah.
Speaker B:Canon being the Star wars canon at the moment includes what's inside bits once.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Whereas Marvel do something good because they have like what what ifs.
Speaker C:So they can go off and do stuff that isn't part of the main universe, but it's a curiosity for us to look at.
Speaker B:If I had to fix Star wars now.
Speaker B:Not saying that it's broken, but if I had to fix it, I think I would go to the Timothy Zahn things.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And make an animation of that stuff.
Speaker B:Or do it as its own what if storyline over here somewhere.
Speaker C:Or Disney own multiple intellectual property.
Speaker C:Why don't we have an Ewok vs Predator movie?
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:Screw.
Speaker B:I said that's the way to go.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:Let's make that.
Speaker A:Let's do the intro quote right there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, I thought.
Speaker B:There it is.
Speaker B:Ron Howard said that one of the best experiences on this movie was directing Chewbacca and getting a hug from him.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:L3 was achieved through a combination of practical and computer effects.
Speaker B:Phoebe Waller Bridge, who played her, wore a costume that consisted of the droid's head, chest, legs and arms with a green skin tight suit underneath.
Speaker B:I've seen this behind the scenes.
Speaker B:It does look kind of random.
Speaker B:The Digital, Sorry.
Speaker B:The green suit was digitally removed in post production and replaced with mechanical parts such as cables and wires.
Speaker B:So you could just see that and think it's cgi, but actually she was there on the set.
Speaker B:See, a lot of these facts of the day are more Easter eggs.
Speaker B:So Beckett wears the guard disguise as seen in Return of the Jedi when Lando wore it in an attempt to save Han Solo from Jabba the Hutt.
Speaker B:So when he's in Jabba's palace, he wears the disguise that he's got in this film.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's another one.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:So there's lots of these.
Speaker B:Han Solo bears a scar on his chin, which is only barely noticeable in some shots, but it's a recreation of the scar Harrison Ford has in real life, which is also visible in every Star wars and Indiana Jones movie he's appeared in.
Speaker B:And of course in Star wars, in Indiana Jones, the Last Crusade, they have that scene with the lion where he actually kind of River Phoenix gets the scar on his chin.
Speaker B:Deep cut skids.
Speaker A:Literally.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker B:Woody Harrelson was picked over someone else as Hans mentor.
Speaker B:Go on, have a guess before I tell you.
Speaker A:Were they black or white?
Speaker B:White.
Speaker B:Tendency to be very angry.
Speaker A:Michael Douglas.
Speaker B:Christian Bale.
Speaker B:Christian Bale, yeah.
Speaker B:That would have been interesting.
Speaker B:He'd have been very intense.
Speaker B:So Alden.
Speaker B:I'm not even gonna try and pronounce his second name.
Speaker B:I'm just gonna refer to him as Alden.
Speaker B:Ehrenreich himself was the first actor to audition for directors for Lord and Christopher Miller.
Speaker B:Because obviously they started all this thing.
Speaker B: The directors said in July: Speaker A:Who else?
Speaker A:Any known names for the part?
Speaker B:I think everyone tried for this part, including.
Speaker B:What's the guy called?
Speaker B:He was Goose's son in Top Gun.
Speaker A:Oh, with a tash.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:See his face?
Speaker A:Can't remember his name.
Speaker B:His name's gone up.
Speaker B:There's another guy, someone.
Speaker B:Gruber is it, who was in another Harrison Ford film playing hands.
Speaker B:It wasn't Hans Gruber.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker B:Disney might have Die Hard.
Speaker B:They could have Star Wars Die Hard.
Speaker B:You could be onto something with this.
Speaker A:Die Hard Star wars story.
Speaker A:Yes, it's gold.
Speaker B:Just printed money at this point.
Speaker B:But, yeah, there was another guy, and he really looks like Harrison Ford.
Speaker B:And he was in Age of Adeline and he played a younger version of him.
Speaker B:I think he.
Speaker B:He must have got close because he is Harrison Ford.
Speaker B:Impression online is Pretty damn spot on.
Speaker B:But, yeah, they went back to Oldham when Kira and Han are caught kissing in Lando's cape.
Speaker B:Closet.
Speaker A:Closet.
Speaker B:What did I say?
Speaker A:Closet?
Speaker B:Yeah, that's what I said.
Speaker B:Kira is trying on Lando's blue cape with black collar, which he wore in Empire Strikes Back.
Speaker B:So that's another.
Speaker B:There's a thing.
Speaker B:So the exterior Millennium falcon build weighs 31 tons and has to be moved around using two cranes.
Speaker B:So for some of this film, they'll have used practical and some of it will have been special effects again.
Speaker B:But the actual set of the Millennium Falcon apparently was very substantial on this one because the interior Millennium Falcon set took three months to build.
Speaker B:And it's the largest interior Falcon set ever made on any Star wars film due to the addition of new and Lawrence Kasdan, he worked on Empire and Jedi on the script.
Speaker B:He worked on this with his son, I think.
Speaker B:And his initial storyline for Solo were that Wookiees were enslaved by the Empire on the mining planet of Kessel.
Speaker B:But then, obviously, it's gone up from there.
Speaker A:You see, it's full of them, which I miss most of, as usual.
Speaker A:Thanks, Paul.
Speaker A:Okay, that takes us on to hate it or rate it.
Speaker A:I'll go to you, Paul, first.
Speaker B:It's a strange one for me, this.
Speaker A:I'll say before you start.
Speaker A:I've made a prediction of what your two scores are going to be.
Speaker A:I've taken a screenshot of my phone, so I'm not making it up.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:This is exciting.
Speaker B:So I'll wait till you see how we go then.
Speaker B:It's a mixed bag for me.
Speaker B:I don't hate it.
Speaker B:I don't love it either.
Speaker B:I'm somewhere in the middle.
Speaker B:I think the biggest trick was it's not Harrison Ford and it's not Billy Dee Williams.
Speaker B:And they're doing a good job to emulate them.
Speaker B:I think both Alden and Donald Glover do really good jobs of emulating them.
Speaker B:But you still like.
Speaker B:It's not the guys, though.
Speaker B:So there's that.
Speaker B:There's some things that I think are pretty stupid in it that I don't like.
Speaker B:The Solo thing, for example.
Speaker A:The name.
Speaker B:Yeah, hate that.
Speaker B:Oh, you're on your own.
Speaker B:Han Solo.
Speaker B:It's like, really, you're going to take one of the greatest cinematic characters ever and just reduce it?
Speaker A:Like, why can't I just spend his name?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker C:Have you got a bank account?
Speaker C:Yeah,.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:No digital id.
Speaker B:Get out of here.
Speaker B:So, yeah, that bit, I felt stupid.
Speaker B:Phoebe Waller Bridge annoyed me more in it this time.
Speaker B:Than the last time I watched it, just because.
Speaker B:Since the last time I watched it, she was in the Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, which I'm not going to rant about here, but I'm sure I will one day.
Speaker B:And she was very unlikable in that for me.
Speaker B:So the fact that she was in this being all like, rah, rah, rah.
Speaker B:She was also involved in blowing James Bond up with a nuclear weapon in no Time to Die.
Speaker B:And now she's moving on to Tomb Raider.
Speaker B:Maybe she'll do a good job that.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't hate her, but at the same time, I found the character a bit grating on me.
Speaker B:But over the top, maybe that's just because, again, I'm a bit burnt by Dial of Destiny.
Speaker B:So there's bits of it that I don't like.
Speaker B:There's bits of it where I feel like it is forcing a bit too much of the Easter egg into you.
Speaker B:And I used to like that kind of thing.
Speaker B:Like, oh, I remember this.
Speaker B:But this time I was like, yeah, I get it, I've seen them.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:Just get on with the story and stop Easter egging me.
Speaker B:Having said that, I did enjoy the little bits of John Williams sprinkled in because that always does get my nostalgia going, no matter how forced it might feel like, oh, you remember John Williams?
Speaker B:I'm like, yeah, I do, but I love him.
Speaker B:So, yeah, so the good bits and then I'll wrap it up as quick as I can.
Speaker B:Good bits.
Speaker B:I did like the Kessel Run stuff.
Speaker B:That was really good.
Speaker B:I like the thing between Han and Chewie, like you were saying, I enjoyed that banter.
Speaker B:I enjoyed when they finally got in the cockpit together and everything.
Speaker B:I was like, okay, that's cool.
Speaker B:And when I first saw it at the cinema, I did come out very much like, oh, yeah, that felt like a Star wars film.
Speaker B:So I still get that from it.
Speaker B:There's something not quite on it and it's probably just the fact that it feels like it's Disney squeezing out all that throwaway line.
Speaker B:Here, let's put it in a film.
Speaker B:So I'm good.
Speaker B:Oh, and there's one more complaint I had.
Speaker B:Sorry, I sound quite negative, but I do enjoy quite a bit of it as well.
Speaker B:So the only other thing is this is probably one of the worst looking 4k disks that I've caught.
Speaker B:So at that point I was trying, like, you know, when the new ones come.
Speaker B:Yeah, I've got to get them 4k, get the best Cinematic experience.
Speaker B:It's one of the murkiest.
Speaker B:Looking, like, muddy.
Speaker B:And this is what the director of photography was apparently going for.
Speaker B:But there's some points where it's just so muddy, you don't know what's even going on.
Speaker B:And it's like you've wasted all that money on special effects.
Speaker B:And yet it looks like I'm watching it through freaking sunglasses.
Speaker B:That being said.
Speaker B:Enjoyable.
Speaker B:Bit of a mixed bag.
Speaker B:I'm still gonna give it a six.
Speaker A:Okay, so I'll go next.
Speaker A:I thought this was okay.
Speaker A:I felt it kind of miss.
Speaker A:It's kind of missed the mark on what it.
Speaker A:What it could have been.
Speaker A:I liked some of the gaps it filled in.
Speaker A:Like you said about the Chewie thing, the Millennium Falcon.
Speaker A:I liked.
Speaker A:I liked discovering all that.
Speaker A:I loved.
Speaker A:I loved L3.
Speaker C:Did you.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't know who she is.
Speaker A:That Phoebe.
Speaker B:I don't know who that is.
Speaker B:Because I probably didn't the first time I watched it.
Speaker B:And it didn't bug me as.
Speaker A:But I was just.
Speaker A:The character of that robot was just great in that movie.
Speaker A:I thought it was another dimension to it that was.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Just carry the film a bit further.
Speaker A:I felt that the story in general could have been told a lot better.
Speaker A:It was a bit.
Speaker A:It was a bit weak.
Speaker A:I felt it was trying too hard to be Star Wars y.
Speaker A:Rather than just telling the story of Han Solo.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think we're trying to shoehorn too many things in and which taken away.
Speaker A:Just focus on the story of the man who everyone loves.
Speaker A:Could have.
Speaker A:Could have built the character a bit.
Speaker A:A bit better.
Speaker A:I liked it.
Speaker A:Just not that much.
Speaker A:It wasn't like, obviously, Rogue One is a league of its own.
Speaker A:I even liked the Force Awakens, and I thought it was nowhere near that.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Maybe just trying a bit too hard.
Speaker A:So I'm gonna give it a 6.2.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:Over to you, Mr. Horn.
Speaker C:I despise this movie.
Speaker C:With the power of a thousand gods.
Speaker C:It's fresh.
Speaker C:I knew you would heard of a movie that.
Speaker C:I can't even express the face I had.
Speaker C:You know that face when Ryan Gosling looks at Steve Carell's shoes.
Speaker B:That level of disguise.
Speaker C:That was my face the whole time.
Speaker C:What movie is that?
Speaker C:Crazy Stupid, Crazy Stupid Love.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I hated this.
Speaker C:If I watched this movie twice.
Speaker C:Because I watched it a week ago and then realized I'd forgotten every single thing of it.
Speaker C:I think.
Speaker C:Which I think is my brain protecting itself.
Speaker C:So then I watched it again.
Speaker C:Yesterday.
Speaker C:And I've still forgotten it.
Speaker C:Like it's unmemorable to the highest level.
Speaker B:And did you see it originally when it came out?
Speaker B:What did you think I would have done?
Speaker C:I remember not liking it.
Speaker C:Okay, I don't think I went in deep.
Speaker C:So, I mean, what did I hate?
Speaker C:Firstly, the story is a fucking joke.
Speaker C:It's like, oh, so it starts.
Speaker C:Firstly, it doesn't start in space.
Speaker C:You know, Star wars is supposed to start in space with the crawl of what's going on.
Speaker C:And then the cool music kicks in and the camera should pan.
Speaker B:Well, Rogue One didn't do that either, though.
Speaker C:Rogue One did, didn't it?
Speaker B:No, it did.
Speaker B:It didn't have a crawler, anything.
Speaker B:It was seen.
Speaker C:Is it space?
Speaker B:Probably space.
Speaker C:It's Star Wars.
Speaker C:You start in space.
Speaker B:No, doesn't it start with Jyn Erso getting thrown in a.
Speaker B:Getting arrested?
Speaker C:All right, maybe.
Speaker B:Okay, but we'll.
Speaker B:We'll give Rogue One a pass because it's so good.
Speaker C:Yeah, it is.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And it almost feels like a little bit like the opening to the first reboot of the Star Trek where it's just like a fairly good looking, charismatic guy speeding through somewhere.
Speaker C:Oh, shit.
Speaker C:The dialogue is not even written by AI.
Speaker C:It's worse than that.
Speaker C:It's like they go through this.
Speaker C:Hurtling through this adventure, tries to go between the closing walls, gets caught.
Speaker C:They're being shot at.
Speaker C:And he's like, come on, we have to run.
Speaker C:Oh, do you?
Speaker C:Do she?
Speaker C:You've been fleeing in your speeder thing for ages and they're shooting at you.
Speaker C:But your dialogue is going to be, come on, we better run.
Speaker C:And apparently your best friends who've grown up to get each other, you should be speaking in looks, you know, when you instinctively know what you're doing.
Speaker C:It's show, don't tell, like, what the fuck.
Speaker C:So that angered the shit out of me.
Speaker B:I want this director's commentary next time I watch it.
Speaker B:This is what I want to hear it.
Speaker C:Like, meeting Chewie is a fucking joke.
Speaker C:Like Han Solo, from what I remember.
Speaker C:Well, firstly, I like the bit where you see, like, hand joining the Empire because we know he used to work in the Empire.
Speaker C:We knew that.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker C:My memory of this is that he sees, like, Wookie's been tortured and he.
Speaker C:When he's working for the Empire and then he breaks.
Speaker C:He's kind of Jack.
Speaker C:Captain Jack Sparrow.
Speaker C:So he's.
Speaker C:When you.
Speaker C:Captain Jack Sparrow says, people aren't cargo, mate, that's basically what Han Solo does.
Speaker C:He does almost the same storyline.
Speaker C:And then Jack Sparrow becomes a pirate and Han Solo becomes a scoundrel and a smuggler.
Speaker C:That's it.
Speaker A:Scoundrel.
Speaker C:What this movie should have been is maybe Hand joining the Empire.
Speaker C:That would have been interesting.
Speaker C:First whole act, him in the Empire doing heinous stuff.
Speaker C:But him building up trust and learning.
Speaker C:Like, yeah, you can have the love story if you want.
Speaker C:But then he should.
Speaker C:Someone he loves should die because he didn't shoot first, which is then the motivation.
Speaker C:He has always shoot first.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But also, that could have been the beginning of him using his guile and his charm and to get out of situations.
Speaker B:Yeah, I suppose they saved that for the big finale with Riddle, Woody Harrelson, didn't they?
Speaker B:To be like, look, he was a joke.
Speaker C:Because his wife dies and he seems to forget about it within four seconds.
Speaker B:That's true.
Speaker C:And his team died.
Speaker C:What's that song where it's like, I don't care?
Speaker A:Yeah, I crashed my car into a bridge.
Speaker A:I don't care.
Speaker B:That's him.
Speaker C:That should have been the same song on this movie.
Speaker C:That should have been the song.
Speaker C:Because at the beginning, where does it say it?
Speaker C:Han is like, I'm Han and Beck.
Speaker C:It's like, nobody cares.
Speaker C:I said, yeah, nobody cares.
Speaker C:Then he opens like it's a lawless time.
Speaker C:No one cares.
Speaker C:Then L3 dies.
Speaker C:No one cares.
Speaker A:Like I cared.
Speaker B:Like, Matt likes L3.
Speaker A:I do.
Speaker C:When do you think about how much I cared about the robot?
Speaker C:In what?
Speaker C:Mandalorian?
Speaker C:Was there one?
Speaker C:And in Rogue One and Short Circuit?
Speaker C:Yeah, like I care.
Speaker C:Like, I cried.
Speaker C:And this whole.
Speaker C:Yeah, she was annoying.
Speaker C:I. I'm curious about this, whether actors can all be voice actors, because they can't.
Speaker C:Who's the guy from Serenity and stuff like that?
Speaker B:Who's Alan Tudier?
Speaker B:He did the voice in Rogue One.
Speaker B:Yeah, the robot you're on about.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:She cannot.
Speaker C:She.
Speaker C:That was not good voice acting.
Speaker C:I. I get.
Speaker C:They maybe hired her because.
Speaker C:Oh, it's fine.
Speaker C:We're gonna have a feminist unius robot.
Speaker C:You want to say things like, and I'm gonna flip your switch.
Speaker C:Good luck finding it off.
Speaker C:Stop talking about clitoris in a Star wars movie.
Speaker B:Well, that whole romance thing with her and what the is that about?
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker C:And then it's almost like this weird Vietnam movie when he runs in together, pulls her body, and she splits in two.
Speaker C:Yeah, I laugh.
Speaker A:That reminds me of Tropic Thunder.
Speaker A:Guts back together.
Speaker C:It's like, what were you thinking doing that?
Speaker C:It's a dumbest Droid death scene.
Speaker B:Well, one of the Phoebe facts that I didn't give you makes sense now with what you've just said, though.
Speaker B:She went in, not having seen a Star wars film, didn't know what a droid.
Speaker B:Didn't know what a droid was, so did it just as she did it, and they were like, yeah, can you make it more ro.
Speaker B:Like, droid.
Speaker B:Like, more.
Speaker B:And she was, oh, like more robot.
Speaker B:I get it now.
Speaker B:But apparently they liked her initial reading, so they just went with that.
Speaker B:And that's probably why she doesn't even sound robotics.
Speaker C:Oh, Jesus.
Speaker C:But then also, Jon Favreau was a dick.
Speaker C:His voice didn't work as that guy.
Speaker C:And then that guy dies, and guess what?
Speaker C:No, but I don't care at all.
Speaker C:No one cares.
Speaker C:And then it's just dumb dialogue.
Speaker C:Like when he breaks out of the.
Speaker C:The first bit when he gets through, and one of the soldiers, like, don't let him get away.
Speaker C:No one talks like that.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker C:Just dumb.
Speaker C:And then what else did you say?
Speaker C:Oh, my God.
Speaker C:It's like so much exposition as well.
Speaker C:Like, there's a bit where she gets the money and he's like, oh, that's more than you said we'd need.
Speaker C:And then she said, yeah, to buy ourselves out of the control zone off of Corellia.
Speaker C:What the Are you saying?
Speaker C:You guys, your best friends?
Speaker C:Why you.
Speaker C:No, that's not a good way to get exposition across.
Speaker C:That's not a good way to get information across.
Speaker C:That's just dumb.
Speaker C:And, oh, then that Drayden Voss prick also says, kira, remember the silo?
Speaker C:We pulled you out of that hell, gave you a home.
Speaker C:Yes, she knows because she was in that hell and you pulled her out of it and you gave me.
Speaker C:Who are you telling that to?
Speaker B:Look at the audience.
Speaker C:It's like the Truman Show.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker A:Talking to.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Who the fuck are you talking to?
Speaker C:Like, what are you doing?
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:And it's just as you were saying.
Speaker C:It's like a gray, dull world.
Speaker C:It's dull.
Speaker B:That pissed me off more than anything this time because I've got the surround sound ready, I've got the 4K on, and I put it in.
Speaker B:I'm like, barely see the freaking.
Speaker B:I had to put my brightness up, but the brightness didn't make it any clearer because they filmed it in a way that was just like, flat and dull.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker B:And then even when they reveal the Falcon, it should be like a. Ah.
Speaker B:But no, it's like, oh.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker A:Well, still a Bit understated.
Speaker C:That's as shittest I've seen the Falcon look.
Speaker C:I was like, I'm not having that.
Speaker A:I thought the inside shots were quite good.
Speaker A:I like the interior.
Speaker B:It was quite cool.
Speaker C:And then it's just.
Speaker C:There's just dumb bits.
Speaker C:Like Han Solo becomes a dick, and he's supposed to be, like, a scoundrel with a heart of gold.
Speaker C:And it should be more like Casino Royale.
Speaker C:Like, at the beginning of Casino Al, James Bond is this rugged thug and he's beaten someone to death in a black and white shot in a toilet.
Speaker B:That's his, like, first kill or something.
Speaker C:It's the one that hurts.
Speaker C:And he's unpolished.
Speaker C:And then throughout the Casino Royale, he learns how to be James Bond.
Speaker C:And he's, you know, talk.
Speaker C:So he's kind of doing the fan service in a way.
Speaker C:Say, oh, we know he's gonna wear that suit.
Speaker C:And she introduces him into a martini, shaken, not stirred.
Speaker C:And that's all kind of nice, but it's done well.
Speaker B:It's not like slapping you in the face with none of it.
Speaker C:Just.
Speaker C:It's all just fucking fan.
Speaker C:Darth Maul appears out of nowhere.
Speaker C:Like, no foreshadowing, just, oh, let's just throw a hologram of Darth Maul in.
Speaker C:Because people were like, that fucking didn't.
Speaker C:That was just pointless.
Speaker C:And also with Kira, I don't get what our character is.
Speaker C:So she was like an orphan on the streets, basically.
Speaker C:And now she.
Speaker C:She.
Speaker C:She's.
Speaker C:He's second in command.
Speaker C:But is she, like a good fighter, an assassin?
Speaker C:Like, she's got no ruggedness.
Speaker C:She doesn't feel hard.
Speaker C:She looks like she works in a beauty parlor.
Speaker C:So then you go back to Chewie.
Speaker C:The whole thing with Han and Chewie is the Wookie has a life debt to hand.
Speaker C:So he's going to follow him around.
Speaker C:Although I had this cool fan theory that in Wookiee culture, Han Solo, they see Han Solo, or humans as dogs.
Speaker C:So with this book, he's like, here's my dog.
Speaker C:Like, he's really loyal.
Speaker C:He's gonna get in trouble without me.
Speaker C:I've got to look after him.
Speaker C:Can't feed him cheese.
Speaker C:Just gotta keep him on a leash, you know, there's that kind of vibe, but it's not really clear.
Speaker C:Also, if a Wookiee wants you dead, you die.
Speaker C:Like, they've got claws.
Speaker C:They could just shred Han Solo.
Speaker C:And who gives a Wookie?
Speaker C:Like, he's not eating people down there.
Speaker C:It's not fucking rancor.
Speaker C:Like, what is going on.
Speaker C:Who's keeping a Wookie?
Speaker C:What?
Speaker C:And then they're keeping.
Speaker C:It was.
Speaker C:It made no sense.
Speaker C:And also, Han Solo did not save him.
Speaker C:Really.
Speaker C:Like, actually, it was the Wookiee who knocked down the thing so he could get out.
Speaker A:Yeah, but Han Solo, he wouldn't have.
Speaker C:Known to do that, Initiated it.
Speaker C:It's not enough for life debt.
Speaker C:No, I'm not doing it.
Speaker C:So I despise all that.
Speaker C:That just annoyed me.
Speaker C:Plus all the other shit that.
Speaker C:And they didn't establish well enough all the gang culture.
Speaker C:So I said, this is Crimson Pike.
Speaker C:I don't care.
Speaker C:This is enfid ness or whatever.
Speaker C:Who the fuck?
Speaker C:Then this girl takes her helmet off and she's like, when I took over from my mother, I'm like, this is a shit ton of backstory.
Speaker C:You haven't explained to us.
Speaker C:So I don't care.
Speaker C:Then she saw all of a sudden, just does this speech about, we're not marauders, we're here.
Speaker C:Then they're all suddenly friends.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker B:And it's the fact that that came in like, what, in the last 20 minutes of the movie.
Speaker B:Why you really try to squeeze.
Speaker C:And then there's this dialogue silly battle in the air where they're fighting over the smuggly stuff.
Speaker C:And it's like, release your cables or die.
Speaker C:Fuck off.
Speaker B:You didn't care, did you?
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:No, I didn't.
Speaker C:And it's hard because we're coming off of watching Godfather, which is a visual masterpiece of cinematography and blocking and editing.
Speaker C:Editing and character development.
Speaker C:There is no character development here.
Speaker C:Han Solo is a dick at the beginning.
Speaker C:A dick at the end.
Speaker C:And like, even because he's still in Star wars, he's still not willing to get involved with rebels or whatever.
Speaker C:So do something that would make him not want to do that.
Speaker C:Like maybe you have a storyline where he does help out and somebody loves, dies, and he's like, no, I'm not doing that again.
Speaker C:Or he loses a family member or something.
Speaker A:Some kind of sacrifice or failure that adds.
Speaker A:Makes him who he is because he.
Speaker C:Doesn't even get the girl at the end the whole movie.
Speaker C:That gets really hard at the beginning where you like seeing.
Speaker C:So what's this about?
Speaker C:It's like, fuck.
Speaker C:It's about a guy who gets off a planet and leaves his girlfriend behind and then spends three years doing something that we don't see.
Speaker C:And then he comes, tries to get the money to come back.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:That's a better nutshell.
Speaker B:We should go.
Speaker A:I'll put that at the beginning.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's like, that's not really a hero's journey, that.
Speaker C:And then you get there.
Speaker C:She doesn't care because she's moved on.
Speaker C:It's been three fucking years.
Speaker B:If you just compare it to Star wars, he has more character development in Star wars, the original one.
Speaker B:Because at the end he's like, I'm taking my money and I'm going.
Speaker B:And then he comes through.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:The final minute.
Speaker B:I mean, he could have jumped in a bit sooner, let's face it, but that's.
Speaker B:His redemption came through.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:He doesn't really have that archaea, does he?
Speaker C:Not at all.
Speaker C:And it's also dumb.
Speaker C:Like, I'm the best pilot in the galaxy.
Speaker C:Why have you done.
Speaker A:Oh, I'm a child.
Speaker C:I'm gonna kick everyone at Sabacc.
Speaker C:I'm the best player at Sabacc.
Speaker C:How?
Speaker C:Why?
Speaker B:Because it's almost that you may remember me from such films as Star Wars.
Speaker A:Doing it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:In the middle of making it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then there's tons of, you know, it's been a fucking clusterfuck of a production.
Speaker A:That's the way to describe this.
Speaker C:So many shots, like long shots with dialogue over the top.
Speaker C:So it'd just be them walking in this long shot, and they'd be like, so tell me, what are we going to do now?
Speaker C:I'm like, oh, my God, your scriptwriter was fucking dying on this.
Speaker C:Like, what have you done?
Speaker C:This, like, velocipasta.
Speaker C:I mean, what.
Speaker C:I don't like that.
Speaker C:Because it's the fucking audacity of those people coming up with idea, drunk, clearly.
Speaker C:And being like, let's make this movie.
Speaker C:And then having the gall to not only make it and then release it and then for it to end up in front of my eyes, which I take as a personal front.
Speaker C:Mindful.
Speaker B:Like 10 episodes on,.
Speaker C:Like, Minecraft, you know, doesn't know any better.
Speaker C:It had an unbelievable budget.
Speaker C:They could have hired the best screenwriters and made a masterpiece.
Speaker C:Instead, they did a bit of cash grab.
Speaker C:So it's like, whatever.
Speaker C:You don't owe us anything.
Speaker C:This is destroying my childhood.
Speaker C:This is.
Speaker C:I don't even think it's aimed at, like.
Speaker C:Like, I don't like the original prequel trilogy, but I get that that's probably aimed at young people.
Speaker C:I think of them as children's.
Speaker C:No, I think of them as kids movies.
Speaker C:And the original trilogy is children's movies.
Speaker C:I think children's movies can be much more grown up, like fairy tales.
Speaker C:They can have a kind of more darkness in them to a certain extent.
Speaker C:So overall, I wasn't keen.
Speaker B:Oh, it was worth watching it just.
Speaker A:One of your finest moments.
Speaker A:That's legendary.
Speaker B:Let's give him a Red Bull every time.
Speaker A:So I think my scores are way off this one, Darren, what are you going to give it?
Speaker C:I am a little bit torn because I thought Donald Glover as Landlord Original was superb.
Speaker C:I thought he had exactly the right job.
Speaker C:Also, don't do a poker game where there's people all standing around you that can see your cards.
Speaker A:Yeah, that doesn't work.
Speaker C:It's just idiotic.
Speaker C:This is futuristic.
Speaker C:And even Lando's like, dumb card trick thing, that's so obvious.
Speaker C:Everyone would have seen that.
Speaker C:Like, to have something more clever, technological, like have it come out of your hand, like you've got a droid hand or something, and it's open.
Speaker C:It's just dumb.
Speaker C:And no one explains the Tabat game to us.
Speaker C:So we've got no clue what's going on.
Speaker C:We don't know.
Speaker C:There's no tension, just ridiculous.
Speaker C:So because of Landau cohesion, I think that's literally the only thing I liked in this movie.
Speaker A:How many points is he worth?
Speaker C:1.
Speaker B:Okay, what were your predictions?
Speaker A:I was quite a way off, actually.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:I thought he was gonna like it slightly more, and I thought you were gonna like it slightly more.
Speaker A:Okay, so I thought I. I give it a 6.2.
Speaker A:I thought Darren was gonna give it a 3, and I thought you were gonna give it a 7.5.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:But you got a 6 and he's giving it a 1.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker C:And that's feeling generous.
Speaker A:Take a breath, Darren.
Speaker A:Have a break.
Speaker B:Roller coaster.
Speaker B:Can I say that I probably enjoyed his run more than when I was watching the movie?
Speaker A:More than the movie, maybe.
Speaker A:Okay, so that gives it a total of 13.2.
Speaker A:So on the listener league, that puts it in 16th of 17th, just ahead.
Speaker A:Well, way ahead of Velocipasta, which has got 1.5.
Speaker A: And it's just behind Godzilla: Speaker C:I'd watch Conair over this in a heartbeat.
Speaker A:I think I would.
Speaker A:To be fair, it's.
Speaker C:Conair knows it's a joke.
Speaker C:Like, he's not trying to be high art.
Speaker C:Everyone, I'm sure, had a ball making that movie.
Speaker B:I don't think this was tried to be high art, but it should have known better.
Speaker A:And in the Legend League, way down there in 65th out of 72, it's just ahead of Wicked and Hudson Hawk, and it's just behind Bad Boys and Godzilla.
Speaker B:Would you Rather watch Bad Boys.
Speaker B:Darren.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker A:Oh, you wouldn't?
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Oh, I'm never going to get to put Bad Boys 2 on, am I?
Speaker A:Okay, so that's what we thought.
Speaker A:We'd love to know what you thought of the movie.
Speaker A:So let us know and we'll read some of them out on the show.
Speaker A:So what would you recommend would be a good listen of our episodes after this?
Speaker A:Obviously a Star wars that you hope.
Speaker B:Star wars being the obvious one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:To go into.
Speaker A:If you hadn't seen that or even if you have, I was thinking Running Man.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Potentially just thinking the other one probably as well is just because of the director stuff.
Speaker B:We were talking about the project Hail Mary maybe where yes, they actually got to do their sci fi on their own.
Speaker A:Like Unleashed.
Speaker B:Unleashed.
Speaker C:Well, they can clearly do it.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker B:I wonder what this would have turned out with if they had maybe better.
Speaker A:Thank you, gentlemen.
Speaker A:That takes us into part three, which is the listener lounge.
Speaker A:So in part three, the listener lounge, we have the lobby where we have your questions, your stories and your comments.
Speaker A:Then we ask the question of the week and we finish off by revealing next week's movie.
Speaker A:So on our question about Ace Ventura, could this movie be made today?
Speaker A:Brad Reader said, no, it wouldn't be able to be made today.
Speaker A:Reason being the whole Frank Finkel is Einhorn.
Speaker A:Einhorn is Finkel scene when he ends up plunging his face and throwing up to throw up, burns his clothes and takes a victim shower while sobbing, shouting.
Speaker A:No, today's standards would consider that transphobic.
Speaker A:Me, on the other hand, still finds it absolutely hilarious.
Speaker A:And I am unapologetic about my sense of humor.
Speaker A:People need to lighten up and stop being offended by literally everything.
Speaker C:I checked in with some people as well because, you know, I'm an old aged man and some young people, some Gen Z's were saying that it sounded more homophobic than transphobic because there's no evidence that he's trans.
Speaker C:So it's just the idea that they kissed a man that was disgusting them.
Speaker C:Does that make sense?
Speaker B:Yeah, it does.
Speaker B:And it goes to your thing of, well, they're all idiots in the thing.
Speaker B:And that's kind of where the humor is interesting.
Speaker C:But like I said, I think on the episode you're allowed to have characters who are homophobic and transphobic.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker C:So it's in the same way you can have characters who are murderers or, you know, pedophiles or whatever.
Speaker B:And even talking about the episode, we've just had.
Speaker B:Now sometimes maybe you need to start at that point to get to a point where they have the redemption arc.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because sometimes now that's what maybe we're lacking, the redemption arc.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I was chatting with someone about this.
Speaker B:Probably get cut.
Speaker B:But I was chatting with someone about Buffy and Angel and the way they used to write them characters.
Speaker B:And they're at the start of it and they're saying, oh, these are the characters I like and these are the ones I don't like.
Speaker B:And I was like, yeah, but you haven't seen the full story because there's some of them you're gonna love in about two seasons.
Speaker C:Game of Thrones does that superbly.
Speaker C:And Deadwood, which less people have seen, does it amazingly that.
Speaker C:And it's really.
Speaker C:When you see that believably done and explored and the actors love it and the writing's great.
Speaker C:It's one of the best feelings because you don't understand how you can go from despising someone to actually really loving them.
Speaker A:In the span of character development, people grow, people learn from experiences, become better people.
Speaker C:Jamie Lance is probably one of my favorite characters because of the arch he goes through.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So also we.
Speaker A:I shared a clip on our socials of, I don't know if you guys saw it, of Brad Pitt, Ed Norton and director David Fincher accepting award for Fight Club and then reading out the worst reviews.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's quite good.
Speaker A:Brad Reed must have been on one because he's messages again about that.
Speaker A:He said, Fight Club.
Speaker A:I like the anti materialism and the anti corporate messages the book and the film have.
Speaker A:And the film is art.
Speaker A:Those same critics will have reneged on the overviews from the 90s and will now call it a cult classic.
Speaker C:Sometimes that happens.
Speaker C:So Roger Ebert has done that a few times.
Speaker C:He's just been like, you know, I didn't get it the first time.
Speaker C:I think Starship Troopers was a movie like that, that they didn't quite get the satire within it, you know, which is, I think.
Speaker C:I think you're allowed to do that.
Speaker A:I think you change your opinion.
Speaker B:Films I've done that with, first time I've watched, I'm like, look so keen.
Speaker B:And then I watch them again.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, yeah, I get it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:What we could do each maybe year anniversary or five year anniversary is pick a film we've already done and we do it again.
Speaker A:Oh, yes, that's a good one.
Speaker C:I'll get listeners to vote and be like, which one should we revisit you.
Speaker B:Know someone's gonna vote for Velocipasty, right?
Speaker C:They fucking do that.
Speaker A:That brings us on to our next question.
Speaker A:Oh, from Emmy.
Speaker A:This one's for Darren.
Speaker A:How does it feel knowing your students listen to the podcast and leave crappy movie recommendations for your listener choice just to wind you up?
Speaker C:How does it feel?
Speaker C:I really appreciate that you listen and I hope that there's enough education and learning between the swearing that you get something from it.
Speaker B:And we enjoy Darren in meltdown.
Speaker A:We love it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:We have no problem with it whatsoever.
Speaker A:That takes us on to this week's question of the week.
Speaker A:The first one, the question I put out, I put on socials.
Speaker A:Questions of the weekend.
Speaker A:What have you got?
Speaker A:The first one that comes in from Scott Wigglesworth.
Speaker A:I'm just going to go with the hunt for Double o.
Speaker A:The next 007 is on.
Speaker A:What do we think?
Speaker A:Who should the next 007 be?
Speaker C:I think I'm bored.
Speaker A:You're not Even a massive 007 fan, really, are you?
Speaker C:Well, they hit and miss.
Speaker C:I think Cristino Ra was a great reboot and then the rest were kind of blah for me.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I am a Bond fan and they blew him up in the last film and I haven't forgive them for that.
Speaker B:They've now sold out to Amazon.
Speaker B:So Amazon are in control of whatever the hell this looks like.
Speaker B:So I have no excitement for it either at this point.
Speaker C:I think it needs.
Speaker C:If they're going to reboot it, they need to start being more what I would regard as a production context.
Speaker C:So it needs to be more relevant to what's going on.
Speaker C:So I world.
Speaker B:Yeah, right.
Speaker C:Like, I would want James Bond involved in, like, Gaza or Ukraine or something.
Speaker C:Like, I like Black Widow, the movie, because it was dealing with, like, this kind of trade of women all around the world.
Speaker C:And I think, what's he.
Speaker C:Ray Winston, isn't it?
Speaker C:He says, oh, we deal with the most disposable product, women or young women or something like that.
Speaker C:And it's thickening.
Speaker C:And that was before, really, the Epstein files really kind of came out.
Speaker C:So that's why I just want it to have, like, balls.
Speaker C:And we, like, if you genuinely had a spy of that caliber that existed, what should you be?
Speaker C:Or he could go after the freaking Epstein, like, do something like that.
Speaker C:Or.
Speaker B:The other way I would go with it is make it into a period piece to differentiate from all the other ones and, like, set it back in the 60s or something and be, like, proper old school.
Speaker B:Yeah, 60s.
Speaker B:Another be problematic is using that somewhere.
Speaker B:But it would definitely then put it apart from all the other ones.
Speaker B:Maybe.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't know what they're gonna do.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:Because they keep throwing out the same name of the different actors and everything.
Speaker B:They're not gonna pick Henry Cavill because he.
Speaker B:He's too old now.
Speaker B:They want someone younger.
Speaker A:They also say it's gonna be a white actor, it's gonna be a black actor.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's gonna be a woman.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I could see Idris Elba doing it, but at the same time, he's probably same as Henry Cavill.
Speaker B:He's a bit old now, so it's not gonna be him.
Speaker A:Depends where it's set in the timeline.
Speaker A:It could go young.
Speaker A:James Bond could go old.
Speaker B:I think they're gonna try and set it young so they've got him for a few films.
Speaker C:Or how about you just stop making James Bond movies and go find some other ip?
Speaker C:That's interesting.
Speaker B:Well, that's the thing.
Speaker B:Amazon have got it, so I'm worried there's gonna be spin offs left, right and center and they're gonna Star wars it for where they just dilute it to the point of.
Speaker B:We used to look forward to the next.
Speaker B:Or I did.
Speaker A:I used to care.
Speaker B:No, no, I used to look forward to the next one.
Speaker B:But it's going to be.
Speaker A:So your two answers is you really don't care.
Speaker C:Well, and also, how does it differ from Mission Impossible or Born?
Speaker C:Like, what's unique about it anymore?
Speaker B:They're all kind of blurring and that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker B:If they set it like in a period piece, it might just make it a bit different.
Speaker A:They need a huge left turn.
Speaker A:Something different, something unique about it.
Speaker A:It needs something either needs to go away and for a long time and come back or it needs some reinvention somewhere.
Speaker B:I'm still sulking at the fact that blew him up with a new.
Speaker A:Okay, yeah, we get that ball.
Speaker A:We get that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I'm gonna mention it every time I can.
Speaker A:Okay, that's it.
Speaker A:This week's question of the week provided by Scott wigglesworth is who should be the next James Bond?
Speaker A:Okay, that takes us on to next week's movie, which is me.
Speaker C:Nice.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:We're going a film franchise.
Speaker A:I've seen this movie.
Speaker A:I'm about to recognize.
Speaker A:I've not.
Speaker A:I've seen bits of the rest of them not overly familiar with, but I'm fascinated and I love the actor.
Speaker A:I'm going Indiana Jones ready to The Lost Ark.
Speaker A:It's currently on ITV Player Cool in the uk.
Speaker B:I may have it on pretty much.
Speaker A:I knew you'd have it.
Speaker B:Every format you could possibly have.
Speaker B:That one.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:This is the only one of the whole franchise where I've definitely seen this before, maybe a couple of times.
Speaker B:Raiders.
Speaker A:Not really seen.
Speaker A:I've seen bits of the rest of them, but not.
Speaker A:Not much.
Speaker A:So I just thought, I know if we do a franchise, we have to start at the beginning.
Speaker A:So here we are.
Speaker B:I'm done with that one.
Speaker A:That is next week's movie.
Speaker A:So that brings us to the end of the show.
Speaker A:Thank you for listening.
Speaker A:We really do appreciate you spending some time with us.
Speaker A:If you enjoy the episode, as we've said earlier, please tell someone about it.
Speaker A:Spread the word.
Speaker A:It really does help us.
Speaker A:And that is it.
Speaker A:This episode is officially over.
Speaker A:This is Mark saying goodbye.
Speaker C:This is Darren saying goodbye for now.
Speaker C:Really?
Speaker C:With a melon.
Speaker A:Where did you buy that?
