The Long Walk - In A Nutshell(Cinema Trip)

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So grab some popcorn and let's jump into this week's movie. Okay, here we are.

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Cinema trip special episode.

Marc: 00:00:43

We went to the cinema and we saw the Long Walk and some people.

Darren: 00:00:46

Came with us, our fans.

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This is a war that will go on forever.

Paul: 00:00:49

It's going to go on forever. Every episode.

Marc: 00:00:51

We'll just ask them next time. Next time we do one, what are you? Are you fans or listeners? They'll probably say both.

Darren: 00:00:55

Yeah, but they might say, well, we're fans of Paul, but we're listeners of Darren.

Paul: 00:00:59

Or vice versa.

Marc: 00:01:01

We're just here for the horn section.

Paul: 00:01:03

That's what they're gonna say. We're here for the horn. Yes.

Marc: 00:01:06

Okay, so we own part one, which is the nutshell, and we will break the movie down. Spoiler free. To help you decide if the Long Walk is your kind of movie. So how do we break this down then?

Have you had much when we've only seen it recently. So have you had much time to figure this one out?

Paul: 00:01:20

Kind of, but it's always weird. We were just saying because when we watch them at home, we tend to write notes. But when you're in the cinema, you don't.

Marc: 00:01:26

That is true.

Paul: 00:01:27

I regularly kept reaching for my notepad that wasn't there.

Darren: 00:01:30

But it's one of those kind of post apocalyptic, semi post apocalyptic movies like Hunger Games and Divergence and Maze Runner and all that kind of stuff, particularly when society is collapsing and then they have some kind of battle royale type kind of task or Squid Games. Task or. Haven't seen Squid Games?

Paul: 00:01:47

Yeah, reminded me of that.

Marc: 00:01:48

That's what came to mind when I. Yeah, yeah.

Darren: 00:01:50

And then you get like one chance and if you win, you get money and you get to have a happy life. And if you don't, you die, you get shot.

Marc: 00:01:56

Do this or die kind of thing.

Paul: 00:01:57

But the way it was filmed was very conversational sort of thing. So they're on this long walk and it's all to do with this stuff Damon's just said.

So I thought it's almost like Hunger Games meet, Stand by me or something like that.

Darren: 00:02:07

Yeah, there we go.

Marc: 00:02:08

That's a good one. I didn't. I didn't get round to doing a meet. Yeah, that's good.

Paul: 00:02:12

That was the first one that came to mind because it's kind of guys talking as they're on this challenge, but it's maybe not as.

Darren: 00:02:18

And stamp by me is Stephen King as well. Right?

Paul: 00:02:20

Yeah. Yeah. So maybe that's why I made the connection.

Darren: 00:02:23

Maybe not as.

Marc: 00:02:24

What?

Darren: 00:02:24

What were you gonna say?

Paul: 00:02:25

I was gonna say maybe not quite as Drum.

Darren: 00:02:28

Now I feel. I didn't feel bad about interrupting. You had nothing.

Paul: 00:02:32

Nothing Action packed. Maybe not qu. Action packed because it's mainly focusing on the relationships. It's kind of the endurance.

It's the endurance, it's the characters and it's that kind of thing. Rather than stuff blowing up all the time. That's what I was going to say. I knew I had a point.

Marc: 00:02:46

So, yes, it is a story of endurance mixed with control and the means to keep going. When everything. Everything inside you says you want to stop, but you have to keep going.

Darren: 00:02:55

I think I saw also the original story is written by Stephen King when he was at uni or college or school. I never know what the amount.

Paul: 00:03:02

Oh, so it's an old story.

Darren: 00:03:04

I think: 1979

Paul: 00:03:05

All right.

Darren: 00:03:06

So the comparisons are going to come out against, like, things like Hunger Games. Because it was a Hunger Games director as well, wasn't it?

Paul: 00:03:11

Yeah. So it was the guy. I got this wrong. I thought it was the guy who did the first Hunger Games, but it wasn't.

It was the guy who did all the other Hunger Games, so He did like 2, 3 and 4.

Darren: 00:03:18

But yeah, this was written before it, so it was a little bit more, I guess, forward thinking.

Paul: 00:03:23

And Rob, who went with the cinema, also had another film comparison, which was speed, because they have to keep the momentum at three. Three miles an hour. Was it?

Marc: 00:03:31

I think three miles an hour. Yeah.

Paul: 00:03:33

So obviously speed. They have to keep the bus above 50 miles an hour or something. It's like. Yeah, it's speed, but on a walk. On a walk, yeah. Which I thought was good.

Marc: 00:03:40

Then a bus. What was the second one on? Was it a ship?

Darren: 00:03:42

Yeah, it was a ship.

Paul: 00:03:44

A cruise ship.

Marc: 00:03:45

Cruise ship. Because cruise control, wasn't it?

Paul: 00:03:46

Yeah.

Marc: 00:03:47

And then a walk.

Paul: 00:03:48

I think I only saw that once. Sandra Bullock was in it. That's all I can remember. Keanu wasn't. Anyway, we. We get sidetracked here with our speed.

Marc: 00:03:56

Referencing, so I've tried to break it down to abc. So I've got the A, as a group of men kind of forced into a deadly endurance contest, walk without stopping or die.

The B is the physical trial becomes psychological battle as friendships, rivalries and inner demons surface. And then C is kind of what starts as a brutal competition evolves into, like a meditation of. On freedom, choice, survival.

Darren: 00:04:23

Yeah. I think it's also a meditation on what you do if you win.

Marc: 00:04:25

Yes. So that's kind of what you're. They're all thinking about what they do if they win.

Darren: 00:04:30

You get the money and then you get some kind of a wish. Which is very kind of vague when they talk about it, but we all think about that, don't we?

Like, we talk about what would happen if we got the lottery or whatever. And would you be sad? And I love those memes I see when someone's like, you know, I'd love to win the lottery and just give.

Like, if I see someone on Facebook need 500 pound for their car to get fixed, I'd give them five grand. Or if I saw someone struggling to pay their groceries, I would just pay for it. And every day I would just do acts of kindness. That's what.

Paul: 00:04:55

That does sound amazing, but can you imagine the level of attention you'd get though?

Darren: 00:04:59

People asking for things subtly? You're just like, you secret millionaire.

Marc: 00:05:03

Those are the memes. You wouldn't be too obvious when I won the lottery, but there would be signs.

Paul: 00:05:08

Yes, exactly. And a lot of their discussions around that in the film, like, what if you win? What are you going to do?

Darren: 00:05:14

I think it's interesting that it came out now with what's going on in America.

And I think when we're looking at the collapses of society, from what we can see through the media lens, it looks like America's not in a great place. And, you know, my ex is American and she seems to be saying similar stuff, that there is a level of desperation happening.

And it's curious as well, because Running Man's being remade, isn't it? That's coming out later this year.

Paul: 00:05:34

Yeah.

Darren: 00:05:35

And that's similar. You know, it's basically a game show with people, you know, again, who are desperate.

And it's this Roman gladiatorial thing where we watch people do something ridiculous so that we can feel good about. Yeah, totally.

Paul: 00:05:47

Well, this film's also got a Big Brother element, hasn't it, where it's being televised to the world with them on this bit.

Like, again, the Hunger Games and all the other ones we talked about a Lot of them are similar thing at Squid games, the same that's only televised to certain people I think in certain.

Marc: 00:06:01

People do see it though.

Darren: 00:06:02

People.

Marc: 00:06:03

It is made as entertainment.

Paul: 00:06:04

Made as entertainment. So like you say, the gladiator comparison of the arenas, are we going back in? Is it all rolling round?

It's just we've got technology now, so it's different.

Darren: 00:06:14

Well, Bill Hicks used to say that, didn't he? But go to sleep and America. Here's American Gladiator.

It was interesting that American Gladiator is like a sanitized version of the Roman gladiators in a way. But it is just go to sleep, take your medicine, be sedate, move along. I'm a way of sunshine.

Paul: 00:06:31

If, if you are expecting sort of an action film, you're going to be disappointed probably because it is very much a character driven piece. Even though it's got these.

Marc: 00:06:38

You're following this journey, aren't you?

Paul: 00:06:40

Yeah, it's about poor stuff, apocalyptic questions and all.

Marc: 00:06:43

Yeah, it has its moments but it's not like a action, you know, one a minute, go, go, go. It's kind of lots of ups and downs.

Paul: 00:06:49

It's people walking and yeah, it has them suspenseful moments. But it's not like an ongoing thriller.

Marc: 00:06:56

It's not non stop action.

Paul: 00:06:57

No, it's a. It's a character piece.

Darren: 00:06:59

I think we kind of stopped talking about diversity in the last few episodes. But this one was one of the most diverse films I think we've seen for a while. Yeah, and that was fantastic.

And I mean the lead is like a white guy but it was a lot of people around him of different ethnicities. So it becomes kind of like we were saying with Predator, like a microcosm of America. Yeah, this representation from a lot of aspects of America.

As long as you're male. Well, there's a. There's a mum, I think. I think the mum is the only female character.

Paul: 00:07:25

And they never really explain that, do they? Just that's who's entered into this competition.

Marc: 00:07:29

And if it doesn't stipulate the beginning like this erases for men only.

Darren: 00:07:32

We used to talk about this when I was young because it's like a military family. Do you remember that guy, Simon Weston?

Marc: 00:07:37

No.

Darren: 00:07:38

He got next to. Was it an explosion? And then he came back and he's like face was kind of burned off quite badly.

The theory was the population is not ready to see women come home in that state. And if they saw women come home in that state they would be so anti war.

You would you know, countries wouldn't be able to go to war because they wouldn't have any support from the populace.

Paul: 00:07:58

In terms of people in the film, I'll say this, even though it could easily fit into facts of the Day, but the lead character, guy, do you know who that is?

Darren: 00:08:06

No, not at all.

Paul: 00:08:07

So he's called Cooper Hoffman. So I've seen him. No, close. Close, but not quite right. Sound like Roy Walker of Catch.

Marc: 00:08:13

Right.

Paul: 00:08:13

It's good, but it's not right. It's Philip Seymour Hoffman's son.

I can kind of seen him in a film called Licorice Pizza who had one of the girls of Girls, One of the women from Haim Haim Ham. How do you.

Marc: 00:08:27

The band.

Paul: 00:08:27

Band, yeah, yeah, One of. One of them was in a film called Licorice Pizza. She was really good in it, actually, but he was in that.

But that's Philip Seymour Hoffman's son, the lead guy.

Marc: 00:08:36

Let's move on to part two, which is the unboxing in spoiler territory. So if we've piqued your interest and you'd like to check out the Long Walk as we speak now, it's currently still in cinemas.

Probably will be for a while. If not, if you listen to this in a year, a year's time, go watch it on Netflix or Prime, wherever it happens to be.

Paul: 00:08:56

It's going to be quite quick these days, don't they?

Marc: 00:08:57

Yeah, kind of copy.

Paul: 00:08:58

Back in the day, kids, we used to have to wait years for them to read vhs.

Marc: 00:09:02

But yeah, if you want to, you can go watch it, come back because there will be spoilers from this point forward. So in part two, we have what did you miss? Where we will highlight things you may have missed. Even if you've seen the movie many times.

Then Paul has his amazing facts of the day and we round this off with Hate it or Rate it, where we each give our opinion and a score and we see how it lands on the Legend League. So what did we miss in the Long walk?

Darren: 00:09:23

It better not have missed this, because I'd be furious. But friend of the show, Mark Commode, I'm not sure if he knows this at the end of the show, but.

Paul: 00:09:30

Be my friend, he's a fan of the show.

Darren: 00:09:32

Hopefully, if we can get Mark to listen to this, it would be glorious. So friend of the show, Mark Commode.

Paul: 00:09:39

Yeah, I'll just leave it as that hashtag.

Darren: 00:09:42

Didn't realize that was Mark Hamill until I think about halfway through the movie.

Marc: 00:09:46

I was the same.

Paul: 00:09:47

What I knew he was in it.

Marc: 00:09:49

I knew he was in it. Yeah, but I knew he was in it, but for some reason I didn't pick up that was him. And it was literally probably the same. About halfway through.

Oh, yeah, that's him. I kept thinking, when's Mark Hamill gonna appear in this film?

And then I realized he said something in a certain voice because you don't hear him that much. No, he said something. Oh, that's Mark Hamill there. So I was exactly the same as Sean Kermo. Sean, is it short marker mode?

Darren: 00:10:08

But also Mark. Mark Hammer hasn't done that much stuff. He's not kind of a big A list guy.

Marc: 00:10:14

Other than the marquee things we all know him for.

Darren: 00:10:16

Yeah, basically Star wars, there's not much.

Paul: 00:10:18

So if you have Joker in Batman Animated Series.

Darren: 00:10:20

Yeah, I think it was in Wing Commander as well back in the day. But unless you've seen him in a more mature state, you wouldn't recognize it if you've just seen him in the early Star Wars, I guess.

But you know, I've seen him in Jane, Silent Bob Strike Back, and yeah.

Paul: 00:10:35

I've seen him in a few things over the years, but a lot of his voiceover work I've seen him more in. So the animation stuff he does, it.

Darren: 00:10:41

Felt like he was doing a weird beauty justice type impression from Smoking the Bandit.

Paul: 00:10:46

Do you think that until you said it now, you said it's a similar.

Marc: 00:10:49

Kind of character, like a voice of authority and kind of track. Yeah. Keep control.

Paul: 00:10:54

I may have a fact of the day of where he was channeling his voice from. Do you want that now?

Marc: 00:10:58

No.

Paul: 00:10:58

Okay, I'll hold it back.

Darren: 00:11:01

Do it anyway.

Marc: 00:11:02

Make him wait. So I liked how this shifts from the. The physical side to the. The mental side without you really noticing.

There's at some point you suddenly like, oh, this is all about what's going on up here. It's all things that they're saying to each other. The. The back and forth between other people, their dips in morale.

Versus before it was just about the shoes or the leg or the breathing or the having water or whatever suddenly shifts, just all about them.

Paul: 00:11:30

And it's how that physicality then impacts the mental. Like it's like a domino's effect, isn't it?

Marc: 00:11:35

Yeah, the.

Paul: 00:11:36

The more tired because the main guy.

Marc: 00:11:40

I forgot the Hoffman. Just call him Hoffman.

Paul: 00:11:43

Cooper Hoffman's character, he's quite an affable character when he starts off, but then even he starts getting a bit, I want to say arcy, but you would be if you'd walk that many miles. But he, you start seeing the frictions with him and the guy who he's really friendly with, played by David Johnson.

And when that starts fractioning, you're like, oh, okay. Even the really cool headed guy's starting to lose it a bit.

Darren: 00:12:07

What's the story where those kids get caught on an island and it's a famous one?

Paul: 00:12:11

I want to say Lord of the Flies thinking of this.

Darren: 00:12:13

And they turn against each other, don't they?

Paul: 00:12:15

Yeah.

Marc: 00:12:15

And it's kind of also like lost.

Darren: 00:12:17

Well, that Lord of Flies I'm sure happened in real life. Some kids kind of got stranded on an island and they ended up surviving for ages. They formed a mini community. They looked after each other.

They had like timeouts and stuff and it was actually really, really effective. So it's kind of curious in this where the show is to win. So you think you would sabotage each other. You think you start swinging punches you'd like.

Marc: 00:12:40

I wondered if to keep going you needed some of the people with you, like, like a group mentality. I can keep going if I've got people with me but at the same time I need to lose all these people to win.

Paul: 00:12:50

The alliances are formed also the, the, the friction happens in the group and it builds and that sort of creates the tension in the film between them.

Marc: 00:12:59

I was surprised that film that there was wasn't more of that. Yeah, like sabotage. Sabotage and kicking, like breaking someone's leg or something just to get them, get them out.

Like especially the classic thing is to go for the competition. Who's. Who else is most like to win this. Let's go for them. Yeah, but there wasn't really.

Paul: 00:13:14

I currently don't want to go on the long walk with Mark now because I now know his strategy is the strongest.

Marc: 00:13:20

I won't be gone for you though, will I?

Paul: 00:13:20

Oh, yeah, that's true. I'm already gone. I'm probably the first one out, right? Like, I'm not worried about him. He's already gone. What's going on? Thanks, mate. Unless that.

Unless that was my plan all along and I was luring you in.

Marc: 00:13:34

Or am I double bluffing?

Paul: 00:13:35

Right? Or am I double bluffing? Darren, are you double bluffing?

Darren: 00:13:38

No, I'm nearly 50. I wouldn't even be in it. I can't even walk to the toilet at 2am these days.

Marc: 00:13:43

I don't know if anyone picked up on this, but I've kind of found this as a. This whole movie is a metaphor for life. Keep Putting one foot in front of the other, facing challenges. You lose people along the way.

You make choices and eventually die.

Paul: 00:13:55

You're getting good at this.

Darren: 00:13:56

I'd like that in terms of, like, a metaphor for work. Like, it's not walking, it's working. You got to keep working, keep working, keep working. If you don't work, you don't get money.

If you don't get money, you.

Marc: 00:14:06

That's fair.

Darren: 00:14:07

You can't eat, you can't have rent, and you die. You're. You're not a civilian. You know, you're not. In terms of, like, in the Starship Troopers kind of way, you're not valuable to society. So.

And it's highlighted by the way I think our societies treat the elderly as well. So you have no reason to be here.

Paul: 00:14:22

It reminded me a little bit of that film we watched. I think it was your recommend, wasn't it? The In Time one.

Darren: 00:14:27

Probably I'm excellent recommended.

Paul: 00:14:29

You are. But that was all about, you know, you're working for your minutes.

Darren: 00:14:33

Yeah.

Paul: 00:14:33

And it's all about your time. And this felt the same. Like, if you survive, you win all the riches in the world, but only one of you is going to get it. How many was in the walking?

50. So 49 of them aren't going to make it.

Just that fact in itself as you set off the start line and think, well, most of us, there's only one of us going to survive.

Darren: 00:14:50

What would the prize have to be for you to enter?

Paul: 00:14:52

Off the top of my head, I wanted to say Natalie Portman, but that seems shallow. What would the prize be? I don't think I'd enter. I don't think there could be a prize big enough because I knew, you know, out of 50 people, I don't.

Marc: 00:15:03

Know, it was a bit vague at the beginning, but a lot of people seemed like they entered out of necessity.

Darren: 00:15:07

I thought that. But then no one looked like they were starving. No one looked like they were weak.

Like, some of them were athletic, some of them were, like, a bit chubbier.

Marc: 00:15:16

But it made out like. Like it was. You were being called up, like. Like they had to do it for some reason. There was a prize, but they didn't have to enter.

But it almost made it like they. There was a reason why all these 50 people felt like they had to do this, but never really explained why.

Paul: 00:15:31

I mean, the main character obviously had the. Because we're in. Spoiler alert.

Marc: 00:15:34

National Service. That's the one I was thinking of. National Service. That's what it's called not conscript.

Paul: 00:15:39

We're in spoiler territory.

Marc: 00:15:40

Yes.

Paul: 00:15:41

So the main character obviously had the revenge plot on the General because the General killed his dad, so he wanted to win so he could get close enough to kill the General. I told you were in spoiler territory. So if you listened, it's your own fault. But that was obviously his motivation rather than the winnings.

It was about that revenge.

Marc: 00:15:58

But we didn't know that.

Paul: 00:15:59

But we didn't know that until the film got to that point, which was quite. Well, there was a flashback at one point and you could feel the friction.

Marc: 00:16:07

And it came out more as the journey went on.

Darren: 00:16:09

But also, wasn't the dad killed because he was reading banned books and things like that?

Marc: 00:16:14

Yeah, he kept. He kept breaking the rules, which is.

Darren: 00:16:17

Huge now in America, it's.

Paul: 00:16:19

Is that back?

Darren: 00:16:20

Yeah, I've been doing it for a while.

Paul: 00:16:22

Wow.

Darren: 00:16:22

See, actually, weirdly, Stephen King is really anti it and he will start. He was like, okay, kids, America's ban these books. Go to your library and get them. Make sure you read them.

Marc: 00:16:32

Let's work out why these are banned.

Paul: 00:16:34

So in that sense, there's almost V for Vendetta vibes.

Darren: 00:16:36

Yeah.

Marc: 00:16:37

I thought there was details of each. Each contestant, as it went along was how they were framed. Like there was body language, small habits signaling who's strong and who's weak.

Some people in the background never saw them, but then they. Then they would suddenly appear in a scene and you go, okay, that's the weird guy. He's the. He's the loose cannon.

We don't know what's going to come from him. He's a weak link. He's just. He's a contender.

Darren: 00:16:56

Yeah.

Marc: 00:16:56

As it went along, it kind of balanced everyone out. He showed you everyone.

Darren: 00:17:00

I'm surprised more people didn't go for the soldiers. Like, if I thought I was going to give up and I couldn't walk any further, I'd be taking a soldier down with me 100%.

Paul: 00:17:08

I mean, there was a couple who tried it, but they didn't get very far. Spars.

Marc: 00:17:11

They didn't do it, like, quickly enough. They kind of faltered and stuttered over there, and then by that time they're already dead. Whereas if you took them by surprise.

Paul: 00:17:18

But in terms of what we missed, again, is it about, you know, all of us try to put our hopes and dreams on a lottery or just a big win and then all our problems will be solved? But don't you just get all new problems if you end up with that?

Marc: 00:17:29

Well, There's a lot of examples of people getting the grass is not always greener sort of thing where they get whatever it is and they're still not satisfied. They're like, oh, that wasn't what I was after.

Paul: 00:17:37

It's the next thing.

Marc: 00:17:37

I still don't know what I was after. What? It wasn't that.

Paul: 00:17:39

So they get to the end of the walk, they last the other 49 people out, they get the prize, they get all the winnings and money. Is that everything, then? Are they going to be satisfied? I can never be satisfied.

Marc: 00:17:49

It's almost like the worst thing that can happen for some people is to get it.

Darren: 00:17:53

Yeah. Destroys your relationships and friendships and stuff.

Marc: 00:17:55

They just drop off. They know. They just go fully into excess and you never see them again.

Darren: 00:17:59

I do like the idea that some cinemas were having what they called treadmills.

Marc: 00:18:04

Oh, yes. We were talking about in this. In the lobby before we went in the cinema.

Darren: 00:18:07

That would have been cool, watching it.

Marc: 00:18:09

While you're walking on a treadmill. Yeah, that would be.

Darren: 00:18:11

And then if you can't keep up, you pulled out the cinema. That'd be cool.

Paul: 00:18:16

How much of the film did you see? I just saw 10 minutes. Didn't make it. Oh, A.D. who went to the cinema with us to watch it.

Marc: 00:18:25

Yep.

Paul: 00:18:26

He had a very good point about socks, which was.

Marc: 00:18:29

Oh, I do remember this now.

Paul: 00:18:30

His obsession. As we came out, we were just. He's like.

Marc: 00:18:32

Because the guy took. His Shoes fell apart.

Paul: 00:18:34

Shoes fell apart. And then he's walking in his socks. And Eddie was working out how many miles he'd done in his socks. And I think we even got to ask.

Marc: 00:18:42

300 and something wasn't.

Paul: 00:18:43

Yeah. We were asking chat GPT. How long can socks last for if you actually walk that many miles? They had to be pretty good socks. I think we were.

Marc: 00:18:52

Yeah. So the only thing I picked up on was the. The sound in this. The soundscape. There was lots of.

There'd be footsteps, then sometimes there was silence or just the sound of them walking. Like. No, just. Yeah, but then the violence was very sudden. Sometimes it used to catch you off guard.

But that was replacing, like the traditional score. It wasn't. I didn't feel like it was very. It was very stop start. Like sometimes there was music in certain scenes, but for a long time there wasn't.

It was just the sound of them walking or the weather or things in the background. But the score would come in and out, which I didn't. That was quite unique, I thought, and.

Paul: 00:19:27

I guess that was to make more impact when it was them scenes where it was quite shocking when there was.

Marc: 00:19:31

Music, it was really dramatic stuff. Yeah, cool. Okay, let's move on to Paul's facts of the day. What do you got?

Paul: 00:19:39

Paul Cooper Hoffman said that he and his co stars walked 15 miles a day in 100 degree heat on concrete and with no shade, totaling almost 400 miles. And the grueling long takes in the hot Winnipeg, Canada sun, which is obviously where they filmed it. He said there was a real.

When you got there and started walking. Anxiety of actually making it through the day.

So in some ways actually filming the film they were putting themselves through the paces of which I thought that because it is very long takes, sometimes some.

Marc: 00:20:10

Of the scenes are long.

Paul: 00:20:11

And if you think about movie, obviously you have to do take after take after take.

Marc: 00:20:14

You also have to know how to walk. Pretend like being injured.

Paul: 00:20:16

Yeah, that's wounded. Take after take.

Marc: 00:20:18

How to act really tired. Because I watch videos of people being really tired at the end of a long walk.

Paul: 00:20:23

And even if you're acting that, it starts to catch up. Because I always remember Hugh Laurie in house. He had his limping house, didn't he?

But I remember after a while he started to actually get a bit of an injury from faking his injury.

Marc: 00:20:34

Because your other leg's going to. Or whatever. The other side compensates for your. What you're doing. Yeah.

Paul: 00:20:37

And if you're filming what. I don't know what they do 10 hours a day sometimes, maybe more. Although Stephen King has said he didn't explicitly intend it that way.

The Long Walk novel is often seen as an allegory.

Darren: 00:20:47

Allegory.

Marc: 00:20:48

Let's call it that. Yeah.

Paul: 00:20:49

Critique of the Vietnam War and the senseless death and spectacle of state sanctioned violence.

Marc: 00:20:55

Vietnam War, that was the other thing. Yeah, there's definitely links to that.

Paul: 00:20:58

Yeah. And he said you're right from your time. So certainly that was in his mind. But I never thought it consciously.

Marc: 00:21:03

So as an algorithm different or is it mean different meanings in the same thing?

Darren: 00:21:07

Yeah, it's just basically a different meaning of something else. Yes.

Marc: 00:21:09

Yeah.

Darren: 00:21:10

It's weird because I remember in. I think it's John Rambo. Is that when he goes to. I can't remember where he goes. Country beginning with C. I always get it, always forget it.

It's like to the.

Marc: 00:21:19

Cambodia.

Darren: 00:21:20

Cambodia. I think it's come. It's like to the west of Thailand.

Marc: 00:21:25

Cambodia.

Darren: 00:21:25

Cambodia, yeah.

But I don't know how true this is, but there's a bit where they've got These prisoners and they throw mines into, like, a low swamp, and the prisoners have got to run across the swamp and back again, and the soldiers are betting on them. And it just made me think of this kind of the same thing, you know, that would have been interesting if we saw people watching TV taking bets.

Paul: 00:21:45

Yeah, that's true. We didn't see any of the other side in this film.

Marc: 00:21:48

There's only a very limited section of this. That was for, like, the audience.

Darren: 00:21:51

Yeah.

Marc: 00:21:51

For some reason. And I think that was just to hide the brutality of it, really.

Darren: 00:21:54

I would have liked to see the audience watching it. And I would like to see Gogglebox watching people watching the audience. That would have been cool.

Paul: 00:22:03

That's the kind of inception we want in these things now.

Darren: 00:22:05

Yeah.

Paul: 00:22:06

So answering your question before about Mark Hamill's character, Mark said that when the director, Francis Lawrence, approached him about playing the part of the major, it immediately evoked his teenage years in Japan, where he went to school next to a U.S. military base. And he said, I know who this guy is. I've seen him firsthand.

And I'd walk across the parking lot seeing the officers putting these guys through the paces in the blazing hot sun, and it was just brutal. Like, if you vomit, they force you. It's horrible. Oh, that's what Mark Hamill said.

Marc: 00:22:35

Oh, God, I'd rather be shot.

Paul: 00:22:37

It wasn't Smokey and the Bandit, but, yeah, obviously he's seen a general. That's. Oh, yeah, graphic there.

Marc: 00:22:44

The jackass guys would get through that.

Paul: 00:22:46

Also, interestingly, in the book, the walkers have to maintain a speed of 4 mph. But in the movie.

Marc: 00:22:51

Yeah, obviously that's fast walking.

Paul: 00:22:53

Yeah. The request of Stephen King.

They changed three miles per hour because Stephen King felt that the original speed was unrealistic for the duration of the contest.

Darren: 00:23:02

Yeah. But not in the late: 1970

Marc: 00:23:05

Which is why they changed it.

Darren: 00:23:06

Yeah. Now, this should uppage at two miles.

Paul: 00:23:08

An hour, what you try to say.

Darren: 00:23:09

I teach teenagers.

Marc: 00:23:13

Some of them may listen to this.

Paul: 00:23:16

ories adapted into movies for: 2025

I'm like, oh, there's one called the Life of Chuck that's just come out with Tom Hiddleston. That's based off of Stephen King, the Running Man. That must have been based off Stephen King.

Darren: 00:23:33

Oh, nice.

Paul: 00:23:34

Yeah. I didn't know that. The monkey. I don't know about that one, but apparently that's another one out. So there you go.

In the film, there are 50 walkers, one from each state. In the book, there are 100 walkers with no mention of state affiliations.

Darren: 00:23:46

Yeah.

Marc: 00:23:47

100.

Darren: 00:23:47

Too many for. That'd be too complex.

Marc: 00:23:49

Yeah.

Paul: 00:23:49

Too. Too complex to film. So they've made changes from the book. And the Major never removes his aviator sunglasses. Even from the sides, his eyes.

Marc: 00:23:56

Even in the dark.

Paul: 00:23:57

Even in the dark he wears sunglasses. Guess that was a stylish thing. And one final one. There is quite a few.

I was quite surprised because normally with new films there's not that many facts floating about or behind the scenes things. But the movie title doesn't appear until the 20 minute mark.

Marc: 00:24:13

The what? Sorry, is it the what isn't.

Paul: 00:24:15

Yeah, not the 20 minute mark. The 20 minute mark, yeah. Which was a bit surprising.

Darren: 00:24:21

I was like, wait, how long have we been watching this for?

Paul: 00:24:23

I did the same.

Darren: 00:24:24

I felt like longer than five minutes.

Paul: 00:24:26

This is like the longest Bond intro ever before the title sequence. But yeah, it 20 minutes into the film. I think it's because it obviously sets it all up. And by the time the title comes up, you're well into the walk.

But there's some facts.

Marc: 00:24:38

Thank you very much. Okay, let's move on to hate it or rate it. So I'm gonna go to Darren first.

Darren: 00:24:48

I hated it.

Marc: 00:24:50

Okay. I actually hated it.

Darren: 00:24:52

Yeah. I was just so bored out of my mind. And I didn't like any of the characters. I didn't understand. There was no world building. Like, I didn't understand.

I didn't get the thing. Like, I don't get why all these people are doing this. I don't get how this is creating a morale boost and why productivity goes up.

I don't get any of that. And if. If this was the thing and every, like, teenage boy was entering it, you'd be working out your entire life. Like, you. You'd get to.

Marc: 00:25:16

You want to increase your chances of winning.

Darren: 00:25:17

Right. And you'd have strategies for walking that far. You'd have strategies for how to. While you're walking. And. And you'd have thought about.

Paul: 00:25:24

Yeah, we haven't mentioned that graphic, but have we?

Darren: 00:25:26

Right.

Paul: 00:25:27

While you walk.

Darren: 00:25:28

Yeah. You would just have given it way more thought. And also for me, I don't think that the boys spoke like boys. And it's weird because he did Stand By Me.

And I think Stand By Me is a masterclass in guys kind of talking to each other, but it was just a bit dumb. And kind of shallow. And I didn't really get it. I was just a bit like, okay, is this all that's going to happen?

And I think it would have been better if there was like an audience. We got to see people impacted by it.

Marc: 00:25:52

Then they would have been impacted by it.

Paul: 00:25:53

Yeah, like the Truman show. Doesn't it that part of the reason the Truman shows. Well, for me, I think you heard that at the time as well.

But part of the impact of that for me is it kept cutting away to security guards or the old ladies.

Marc: 00:26:05

Get invested in the people who are watching it. Yeah, well.

Paul: 00:26:07

And that's what you said about Gogglebox. You kind of. You want to see the reactions. There was none of that in this.

Marc: 00:26:12

It was like. It was weird. It was weird. It kind of reminded me of in lockdown when in football carried on but without all crowds for the players.

Even if he's watching it on tv. It was just, it just took a lot of the way, the life of it. Like someone score a goal and it's like a couple of people going, exactly.

Darren: 00:26:28

I forgive it if it was like an art house, low budget movie and they were like, okay, this is the only like crew and the cast we can get. We can only afford this many people. So there's no audiences along the side. There's no kind of people cheering. Family members haven't come.

There's just, it just seemed barren. Like it almost like there was no population.

Marc: 00:26:46

I think it was intentional, but I don't know why. Like there was, there was definitely. There was definitely a mention of there was going to be some people at a certain.

At the end, towards the end, there's a certain. When it goes through like, like a.

Darren: 00:26:56

Built up area and then they got there, there was like 40 people. I was like, really?

Marc: 00:27:00

It wasn't that many considering the spectacle of this whole thing.

Darren: 00:27:02

And there was no real motivation for them all.

Like if there was someone saying, you know, I'm walking because my little sister's dying and I need to get the money to pay for a medicine and oh, I'm doing it for this, I'm doing it for this. But they were just like, oh, we might get more money. And it never really clarified the money. There was no, like, well, you could.

Marc: 00:27:18

You get. He said, you got a wish, you get anything you want. Basically, that's what. Then you get a wish. Anything you want, we'll give you it.

Darren: 00:27:23

But you can't, you can't.

Marc: 00:27:24

Possible.

Darren: 00:27:25

Yeah, exactly.

Marc: 00:27:25

You can't only go to space. Oh, we can't do that.

Darren: 00:27:27

Sorry.

Marc: 00:27:28

Denied.

Darren: 00:27:29

I want a McDonald's. Well, McDonald's doesn't exist anymore, so it's.

Marc: 00:27:32

Closed, so we can't.

Darren: 00:27:33

Sorry.

Paul: 00:27:33

Yeah, so you wasted that wish.

Darren: 00:27:36

So I didn't. It didn't seem believable. None of the characters seemed believable.

Marc: 00:27:40

Didn't have seeming of consequence?

Darren: 00:27:41

No, totally.

Marc: 00:27:42

Like, they seemed okay with. I could just get shot in the head any minute. Which most people aren't okay with that.

Darren: 00:27:47

Exactly. And they weren't even talking about the philosophy of it because I think if I entered that, I'd be like, okay, this is a death sentence.

Marc: 00:27:52

There was a little bit of it between a couple of characters towards the end, but generally people would have been talking about this a lot more.

Paul: 00:27:58

I like the Hunger Games films, but part of the compelling side of the Hunger Games films isn't the Games themselves. It's the Capitol and Donald Sutherland's character, Snow, and how the Games came to pass and sort of the capital watching the Hunger Games itself.

And that's why you get more invested in it, because you see in the other side. Whereas this, again, we don't know the world. And if you don't take to the characters like you haven't. You're thinking, what's.

Marc: 00:28:24

What is this?

Darren: 00:28:25

And then it ends. And I was like, oh, that's ended. Okay. The images have stopped moving. I guess I'll go home.

Marc: 00:28:34

I guess I'll have a drink with my friends.

Darren: 00:28:35

Yeah. I was like, all right. So, yeah, I didn't really do anything, but. Was it based on a short book?

Paul: 00:28:41

Short book, I think, yeah.

Marc: 00:28:42

Oh, was it?

Paul: 00:28:42

Yeah, yeah.

Marc: 00:28:43

Not a novel.

Paul: 00:28:43

No, no. This was. I think Stand By Me was the same. I think that was a show novella.

Darren: 00:28:49

I just think it felt a little bit dated.

I mean, I think it is very apt, like we were saying, with what's going on in the world, this kind of grind to work, the collapses of various, like, civilizations and things. Civilizations is a bit harsh, but, you know, the collapse of what society is going through a massive upheaval, I guess. So that seems okay.

But it didn't really.

Marc: 00:29:06

Didn't land.

Darren: 00:29:07

Yeah, it didn't. Didn't land for me.

Marc: 00:29:08

So we're gonna give it three.

Darren: 00:29:09

I'm not even sure why three, but three.

Paul: 00:29:12

Paul, I didn't hear as much as Darren, however, this is more what we feel about it, isn't it?

And if I was reviewing it as a movie, I'd probably appreciate more of the movie aspects of it and sort of how it was to film Walking and all that kind of thing. How it made me feel was depressed. I mean, this is. Yeah, this was just a dark film. It was meant to be shocking.

It was meant to make you go, oh, this is grim. But I just felt grim coming out of it, like, oh, that was grim. And I like the Maze Runner and I like Squid Game and I like some of these other ones.

But there was bits of it, like you say where you go, oh, that was entertaining. This just felt grim. I enjoyed the characters probably more than you. I did get invested in them. I liked the relationship with the two guys.

I thought that was really good. And I like the side characters to a point. Thought Mark Hamill was good doing his major thing. Overall, I was just left a bit.

Oh, it's just so heavy for the sake of being heavy. And I tend to. And again, this is personal preference. Some people will probably be.

In fact, I saw them on IMDb saying, this is a masterpiece of filmmaking. And I thought, for me, movies tend to be something I escape away from the real world from.

I mean, sometimes there's heavy films I watch and if I'm in the right mood, I really enjoy them and get stuff out. Like we've watched some political thrillers and things which aren't necessarily my thing, but I've enjoyed them more than this.

This just made me feel a bit, like, grim.

Marc: 00:30:34

Oh.

Paul: 00:30:35

So having said that, I'm going to still give. I'm going to give it a 4.6.

Darren: 00:30:42

It's weird because when you talk about it, I feel like you felt worse than I did.

Paul: 00:30:47

I. Well, I was bored.

Darren: 00:30:49

But you were like. You felt depressed.

Paul: 00:30:50

Feel it. I tend to feel films. So I'll watch really light films that are probably critically rubbish.

Darren: 00:30:59

Quite right.

Paul: 00:31:00

But I'll watch them because it makes me feel good.

Darren: 00:31:02

Yeah. Yeah.

Paul: 00:31:03

This one didn't make me feel particularly good. Again, I'll give it 4.6 because of the craft of the film and I appreciate there'll be people who really do like this film. Yeah, it just.

It was a bit too grim, I don't think.

Darren: 00:31:15

I don't think it's a cinema film. Should have gone to stream it.

Paul: 00:31:18

Go on, Mark.

Marc: 00:31:19

Yeah, I didn't enjoy either. It was.

Paul: 00:31:22

It was a slog.

Marc: 00:31:23

Just not a very good movie. There wasn't a lot to it. It just. It didn't make sense. It was. Everything was a bit vague. I didn't know why.

I didn't really get why they were doing this walk. I didn't understand why they were prepared to risk their Life happy for their life to end. And it wasn't really.

The car at the end wasn't really explained enough. Yeah, I didn't. The characters didn't really. I didn't enjoy some. When it got to the end. Well, you had.

You had come along with some of the characters, like the main characters. I did enjoy a bit of progression through that and how some of their change. Sometimes they were, like, strong, then they were weak.

You saw different sides of people. There was ups and downs. I did enjoy that. But overall, yeah, the end is just a bit very weak. Just sudden, just. Oh, I was that. Same as you.

Oh, was that it? Oh, very, very disappointed.

Paul: 00:32:03

And just sort of ended, didn't it?

Marc: 00:32:05

And some of it, yeah, it was very grim. Like some of the. The deaths and the. The way people died was just. It's not really what I want to see.

Paul: 00:32:11

I mean, there is times for that in films, but because of the rest of it had no kind of upbeatness. There was nothing to bounce it out. So just grim.

Marc: 00:32:19

What' happened. A few times it just. Even that novelty wore off and it wasn't as shocking anymore and it was just death for the sake of it.

And I get why they died, but, yeah, it just seemed a bit.

Paul: 00:32:28

And then there was the moment where the guy's pissing while he's walking and Mark turns to me and says, oh, what's gonna happen when he needs a.

Marc: 00:32:36

Then we found out.

Paul: 00:32:37

We found out. Explosive diarrhea.

Marc: 00:32:40

Seemingly. No one had thought about that.

Darren: 00:32:41

No, no, exactly.

Marc: 00:32:43

A tactic or a. How am I gonna. How am I gonna do this and not slow down and get a Mark?

Darren: 00:32:48

And it'd be like a trainer company who's like, are you doing the long walk? Here's the. You need to have the. Whatever.

Marc: 00:32:54

Pay me $3,000 and I will get you through this course.

Darren: 00:32:57

Right, exactly.

Paul: 00:32:58

The influences would be all over that.

Marc: 00:33:00

Yeah. So it didn't make me feel very good either when I came out. So I'm going to give it a 4.2.

Darren: 00:33:05

That would have been lush if you had the Proclaimers doing that advert. Do you need to walk 500 miles by the Proclaimers?

Marc: 00:33:12

I've always got a bone to that song. Why isn't that song just called A Thousand Miles? I would walk 500 miles and I walk 500 more. That's a thousand.

Paul: 00:33:18

I think it's called I'm gonna be. It's not called 500.

Marc: 00:33:21

I know, but it should be called that. Okay.

Paul: 00:33:23

That's in the brackets.

Marc: 00:33:25

Anyway.

Paul: 00:33:25

Anyway.

Marc: 00:33:26

Gives it a score of 11.8.

Darren: 00:33:29

I think that's generous, but yeah. Okay, we're good.

Paul: 00:33:32

I feel like there was some film craft on display. That's why I kind of bumped up a little bit. But as it made me feel as.

Marc: 00:33:39

A film, it could have been a lot better.

Darren: 00:33:41

Yeah. Do you think there's a podcast show that reviews podcasts?

Marc: 00:33:45

Yes.

Paul: 00:33:45

You're really in.

Marc: 00:33:46

There is. I listen to. I'm subscribed to two. There is.

Darren: 00:33:48

And then they'll be like, okay, well, now we're doing movies in a nutshell. Yeah. Just a bit bored.

Marc: 00:33:52

Well, I mean, if we. If we. If we're prepared to pay a small fee. That's what they do.

Darren: 00:33:56

Really?

Marc: 00:33:57

Yeah. Should we do that?

Darren: 00:33:58

How small a fee?

Marc: 00:33:59

I don't know. I can find out.

Darren: 00:34:01

I have tuppence.

Marc: 00:34:02

I'll get you the details. In fact, you can listen to it. Listen to them, critique somebody else's podcast, see what you think.

Paul: 00:34:07

And if we feel too much Inception now, it's like we're just going to keep going in a loop, and if.

Darren: 00:34:12

They write us down, we'll have to do a revenge review of them.

Marc: 00:34:14

It's not right us down, are they? Come on.

Paul: 00:34:15

It's never going to end this, is it? Never going to end the loop.

Marc: 00:34:19

Was that 11.8? Okay, so this puts it in 36th out of 38.

Darren: 00:34:26

Oh, go on.

Marc: 00:34:28

So it's just behind hotshots, which was 12.

Paul: 00:34:31

Oh, no.

Darren: 00:34:31

And one of the worst movies ever.

Marc: 00:34:33

It's got 11.8 and it's the bottom. So Minecraft's bottom with five. Long way down. That's relegation certain.

Paul: 00:34:39

Yeah.

Marc: 00:34:40

And then the net is 11.7. So this is the long walk. 11.8.

Darren: 00:34:44

Less than that.

Paul: 00:34:44

But we gave it more than the net.

Marc: 00:34:46

Yeah. 0.1.

Paul: 00:34:48

I feel like I want to change my point now just. Just for Sandra.

Marc: 00:34:51

So there we go. Let's move on to part three, which is the listener lo.

So in part three, we have the lobby where we share your comments, answer your questions, and then we ask the question of the week and we round off part three with next week's movie. So as we go into the lobby.

So we have now got some replies for our question about crazy stupid love, which was what is your most awkward or surprising dating experience?

Paul: 00:35:20

Excellent.

Marc: 00:35:21

We've had some people message in and email. So the first one was Coon. Still hear a story straight away. I'd been chatting to a lass for a while, but she stood me up twice. No big deal.

I moved on a little while Later, I met someone else and we went over on our first date. We sat down in a restaurant and who ends up serving us? Yep. The very same lass who stood me up twice.

Darren: 00:35:40

Oh, wow.

Marc: 00:35:41

As if that wasn't awkward enough, later that night, she messaged me saying how awkward it was. The problem was I was still sat to my current next to my current date, and she saw the message as well. Awkward.

Paul: 00:35:50

Wow, that's high levels of awkward, Kieran.

Marc: 00:35:52

Yeah. Yeah. Liam from Wakefield says I met a girl for a coffee. She was really fun and we were getting on great. She asked what I did for a living.

I told her I was training to be a doctor, which she didn't react too much. You think? Fair enough. About 15 minutes later, she stood up and said, I'm so sorry, I can't do this.

I literally left straight away, ran out of the cafe. I was so confused. Later on, she texted me saying, I'm sorry, but my ex was a doctor and he was a nightmare.

The sight of your sensible shoes just gave me a flashback.

Darren: 00:36:20

Jesus.

Marc: 00:36:20

Good luck with everything. I never heard from her again.

Darren: 00:36:23

Sensible shoes?

Marc: 00:36:26

I don't get that, but that's did that.

Paul: 00:36:28

Was that on the ick list by any chance? Probably the never ending ickless that I see.

Marc: 00:36:32

Jason Mitchell says halfway through a meal in a posh restaurant on our second date, and she casually mentioned she was still technically, technically engaged.

Darren: 00:36:40

Gee, that's okay. It was technically. Actually, no.

Marc: 00:36:43

Technically married.

Darren: 00:36:44

You can't be technically engaged. That's insane.

Marc: 00:36:46

I have to think of my feet. So I went to the toilet and I climbed out the window.

Paul: 00:36:50

Nice.

Darren: 00:36:51

Sometimes think that's worth doing just for the story. Even if you don't have to climb out, just do it.

Paul: 00:36:56

That's amazing.

Marc: 00:36:57

Could have just walked out the door and said, screw you. I'm not after this.

Darren: 00:37:00

Yeah, yeah.

Marc: 00:37:00

But yeah, climb out the window.

Paul: 00:37:01

Brilliant. Love that.

Marc: 00:37:03

I hope it wasn't on the third.

Paul: 00:37:04

Floor that I feel like this is a brand new podcast. Let's have a spin off. Let's just do these.

Marc: 00:37:09

Yeah. If anybody wants to send us any stories, we'll read them out. This is good. Daniel Reeves.

On a Tinder day, I turned up 20 minutes late only to realize that was I was at the wrong restaurant. When I got to the right restaurant, she wasn't there. I guess I'll never know if she didn't turn up or left because I.

Paul: 00:37:24

Was late before midnight, before sunset.

Darren: 00:37:29

Yeah.

Marc: 00:37:30

What could have been? Could she be the one that got away?

Darren: 00:37:32

Oh, I'd have nightmares. I Hate that.

Marc: 00:37:36

I'd have to know, like, your own fault.

Darren: 00:37:38

But yeah, my. I don't have a whole story like that. But you. I think I told you this.

I was chatting to a guy, to a girl, to a girl on a dating app and it was going well.

And then she was like, hey, this is really weird, but I went met my friend for lunch and I was talking about you and showed her your profile and she's really, really into you. Can we just switch and I give you her details?

And I was like, oh, yeah, I've got to do that, because if I didn't and you know, in 20 years, I'll be, oh, what could have happened? And then we chatted for a while and she turned a bit psycho.

And then I was like, damn it, I can't go back to a friend now and just be like, oh, it turns out your friend's psycho. Can we.

Marc: 00:38:10

You can try.

Darren: 00:38:11

Never happened. And maybe we can pick up where we left off.

Marc: 00:38:14

A female is emailed in. Females. Listen to the show.

Darren: 00:38:17

I've heard of a female. My mom was a female.

Marc: 00:38:20

We need more females.

Paul: 00:38:21

Is that like our 2%?

Marc: 00:38:22

It's too much of a sausage fest for my liking.

Paul: 00:38:24

Do you want me to get some more, like, female films, if there is such a thing? No, no, no.

Darren: 00:38:31

We know.

Marc: 00:38:32

I'd like more ladies to listen.

Darren: 00:38:33

I need to find a future Mrs. Horn.

Marc: 00:38:35

Okay.

Paul: 00:38:36

Hashtag the Horn section.

Darren: 00:38:38

Yeah.

Marc: 00:38:39

Sophie Clark has emailed. She said on a bowling date, I slipped on the lane in front of everyone. I think you know that. Like a line.

Paul: 00:38:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Marc: 00:38:48

And I slipped over in front of everyone and it was really embarrassing. My boyfriend at the time dropped his drink because he was laughing so hard, but he slipped and broke his ankle.

Darren: 00:38:56

Oh.

Marc: 00:38:58

We've been together and married for eight years.

Paul: 00:39:00

There's the key.

Darren: 00:39:01

That's a meet cute. That's adorable.

Marc: 00:39:03

Meet cute. Yeah, that's good.

Paul: 00:39:05

We love that.

Marc: 00:39:06

I just imagine this picture that. That's so good.

Paul: 00:39:08

He laughs so much that he is the one who ends up injured.

Marc: 00:39:11

Yes. I'd like someone to create the image of that. The digital. That image in our head. Just bring it to life. That'd be cool.

Paul: 00:39:16

Congratulations on. You're our only story tonight that's been successful.

Marc: 00:39:21

Yeah.

Paul: 00:39:22

In a bad date stories.

Darren: 00:39:23

Yeah. All the guys are like, my. My date in nightmares. And this one female listener that we've got, he's like, oh, I've got a nice story.

Paul: 00:39:30

And it's a proper meet cute.

Darren: 00:39:32

Bring the positivity, please.

Marc: 00:39:33

And last One James Piet says, I was so nervous before a first day. I had one too many drinks before he arrived. I threw up within five minutes of meeting him. Fair play to him.

He allowed the day to continue, which I thought was amazing, and the day actually went really well. But rightfully so. He ghosted me.

Paul: 00:39:51

Rightfully so.

Marc: 00:39:52

He accepted it.

Paul: 00:39:53

If they'd have been the one, then, you know, maybe they'd have accepted that initial.

Marc: 00:39:58

Oh, that's good. Thanks, James. That's good.

Paul: 00:40:00

Thank you for your stories. Thank you for sharing.

Marc: 00:40:02

This is good.

Paul: 00:40:03

Okay, so them stories brought so much more joy than that film.

Marc: 00:40:06

Yeah.

Paul: 00:40:07

We needed last episode.

Marc: 00:40:09

Definitely.

Darren: 00:40:09

My lecturer at college took a girl on a date to watch Downfall. Do you know that movie?

Marc: 00:40:14

No.

Darren: 00:40:15

It's a story about Hitler. We were just like, what the. Did you do that?

Paul: 00:40:22

Yeah, exactly. Movie.

Marc: 00:40:25

I always remember. I can't remember who it was. Was saying he was with his girl. I think it might be a comedian he's with.

He's watching Schindler's List with his girlfriend.

Paul: 00:40:32

You're thinking of a Seinfeld episode?

Marc: 00:40:34

No, I don't think so.

Paul: 00:40:34

They're making out in Schindler's List and his parents end up finding out.

Marc: 00:40:38

No, no, no.

Paul: 00:40:39

You sure? This is literally a Seinfeld episode.

Marc: 00:40:43

Don't question my Seinfeld.

Paul: 00:40:44

Okay, Okay. I thought that it's like he was.

Marc: 00:40:46

Watching Schindler's List with his girlfriend, and it finished and she goes, should we watch the bloopers?

Darren: 00:40:54

Oh, my God. If she meant that in a funny way, then yeah.

Marc: 00:41:00

If she was trying to be funny.

Darren: 00:41:01

She'S trying to break the tension and break the sadness and the depth and despair.

Paul: 00:41:05

Yeah, that's a keeper.

Marc: 00:41:07

Anyway, let's move on to this week's question of the week. So I didn't want to. I didn't want to bring us all down with a question of what would you do about the long walk? Or anything like that. So. But let's.

Let's flip it on its head. If you were doing the long walk, which celebrity would you want with you and why?

Darren: 00:41:20

Oh, I don't know if I'd want someone strong that could basically carry me or someone who could just make me laugh.

Marc: 00:41:25

Well, I've already thought of this. I would want Arnie as the Terminator because he could just push me along or carry me. No, carry. Well, you can't carry me, but push me along.

And then when I. When it comes to the end, it was just me and him. I'd say, kill yourself, and he would.

Darren: 00:41:38

So you could just terminate himself. You could take Fictional. I take Bumblebee.

Paul: 00:41:43

Nice.

Darren: 00:41:44

Just get in the car. Oh, you have to walk, wouldn't you? That would suck.

Paul: 00:41:47

Can the Terminator self terminate? I don't think he can. Can he?

Marc: 00:41:49

Well, he just took that thing out of his chest.

Paul: 00:41:51

I know, but would he? If he's not, you'd have to be John Connor, though.

Marc: 00:41:56

That's. That's my choice anyway, I'm sticking to it.

Darren: 00:41:58

I just want someone funny. I'll take Rick Mayall.

Marc: 00:42:00

Yeah, morale. I mean, morale would get you through a lot of it.

Paul: 00:42:03

So I'm going to take Sandra Bullock to apologize for the fact that we've rated this on the head of the net.

Marc: 00:42:09

If it's Sandra Bullock, it's down to you two. Are you killing her to win?

Paul: 00:42:11

No, she can win. It's fine.

Marc: 00:42:13

Are you going to say that?

Paul: 00:42:14

That's fine, but think of the good times we'll have had on the walk. Right. And I kind of apologize for the fact that we bumped the net underneath this very depressing film.

Marc: 00:42:22

So, listeners, that is the question. If you were doing the Long Walk, which celebrity would you want with you and why? You did well on the last one.

Darren: 00:42:28

So actually I take Andrew Tate because then death would be a lovely freedom.

Paul: 00:42:32

Oh, you're thinking about it in a different way.

Marc: 00:42:33

You wouldn't mind killing. Yeah, that makes sense. So that's the question. If you can email us hello, Movies in a nutshell dot com. Or hit us on our socials.

They're on the show notes. We'll put it out on the socials when this episode goes out anyway, so you can answer that way.

Okay, this takes us on to next week's movie, which is me.

Paul: 00:42:52

Is it you?

Marc: 00:42:53

of October. I'm going back to: 1990

Darren: 00:43:04

film she might be going for.: 1990

Marc: 00:43:09

Have we, have we done Robin? We haven't. Have we?

Paul: 00:43:10

No, we haven't. One was Hook. Is it Hook?

Darren: 00:43:12

Is it good? Who Hunting?

Paul: 00:43:14

No, it's gonna. We're just gonna name no lesser known film called Awakenings.

Darren: 00:43:20

Robert De Niro.

Marc: 00:43:21

Yes.

Darren: 00:43:22

If I've seen it, I've seen it once. A long, long time ago. Or I just aware of what it is.

Paul: 00:43:27

No, never heard of it.

Marc: 00:43:30

Yes.

Paul: 00:43:30

Yeah. I'll be honest, I don't think I've heard of this one.

Marc: 00:43:34

This is one of those films Where I just happened. You know when you're flicking through. I was like. I was probably like 17, 18. I was looking for the channels when I should have been asleep.

Paul: 00:43:41

Yep.

Marc: 00:43:41

And it just died. And I was like, oh, this looks interesting. And I watched it. I only saw it the once. I've still never seen it since, but it just stuck in my mind.

Certain scenes are, like ingrained in my mind. I don't know why.

Paul: 00:43:53

Is it like a drama? Robert De Niro's in it.

Marc: 00:43:55

uite. It's drama. Yeah. Yeah.: 1990

So if you want to get in touch with us, you could email us. Hello@moviesinachell.com. our website is moviesinnutshell.com but also now you can send us a voicemail.

If you go to moviesinnutshell.com, there's a little bit at the bottom or depending on your mobile or desktop, or at the side that says set as a voicemail. So if you click on that, it opens a thing called speak pipe. Literally, you just press record and open up the mic on your phone.

Just give us a message, whatever you want to say. It'll come straight through to us here.

Paul: 00:44:27

So if people want to confess their undying love for Darren as fans or hate.

Marc: 00:44:30

If you want to tell Darren that you're a listener, go ahead, tell me. Telling you to listen to your heart's content. But yeah, you want to say anything you want to say. Feedback. You don't have to type.

You can just record it into your phone. It'll come through to us here.

Paul: 00:44:42

This is very modern and we can.

Marc: 00:44:44

Play them on the show.

Darren: 00:44:45

Nice.

Paul: 00:44:45

Oh, that is modern.

Marc: 00:44:46

It's a quick, easy way to get in touch with us. Well, I'll put a link to that in the. In the socials as well after this as well.

Paul: 00:44:51

Can we send our own messages?

Marc: 00:44:54

In fact, that's my mission. You two are going to send us a message.

Paul: 00:44:57

Yeah, I got.

Marc: 00:44:58

It's busy day for next time.

Paul: 00:45:01

For next time.

Marc: 00:45:01

That's your challenge.

Paul: 00:45:02

Yeah.

Marc: 00:45:02

Okay, this episode is officially over. This is Mark say goodbye down saying goodbye for now.

Paul: 00:45:08

And I can't remember any quotes from this film.

Marc: 00:45:10

Goodbye. You're fired, Paul. Fired.